Matt,

Firstly, this posting has the *wg chair hat off* disclaimer

Personally, I'm happy to have multiple signatures on a ROA. However, I think that multiple signatures is not the only way that we can provide guidence in all envisaged situations.

Sandy had previously posted the following list of possible solutions:

(1) create multiple singly signed ROAs, say for two /20's, and let the recipient interpret whether you meant to authorize the origination of the /19 as well.

(2) mandate that all sources (all CAs) MUST produce an aggregate cert when there are aggregatable certs

(3) tell prefix holders whose source is not willing to sign an aggregate cert that they are just out of luck in originating the aggregate, maybe just until the next prefix renewal period, maybe forever.

(4) allow a prefix holder whose source is not willing to sign an aggregate to sign an aggregate ROA with multiple signatures.

There seems to be consensus that (1) is not a workable solution.

yes, I agree with this perspective

 Some
people (including myself) like option (4), but others feel that implementing multiple signatures would introduce needless complexity.

as is evident from the discussion in this wg mailing list.


However, if the cases we are discussing are truly rare, then a combination of (2) and (3) may also be reasonable.

I disagree with that position.

in response to 2) I am if the view that the entire discussion is about those cases where this does not happen. (i.e. yes, you can mandate that the tide must not come back in, but frankly its an exercise in Canutian posturing if issuers have local policies relating to certificate issuance that create differing validation paths of more specifics of an intended aggregate address advertisement!)

And in response to 3), it seems like the cart is placed before the horse here. One would've thought that any sensible exercise in securing BGP would be able to secure what we do today, rather than only a subset.



 Our documents could
specify that a CA MUST produce an aggregate cert whenever possible and that a prefix holder needs to have an aggregate cert in order to advertise an aggregate prefix (otherwise, the prefix holder can only advertise the longer [non-aggregate] prefixes).

I find multiple signatures on a ROA a personally preferred option, supported already in available software and one that imposes minimal constraints on issuer policies, and minimal constraints on the ablity to secure BGP as we use it today.

regards,

    Geoff


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