On 07/10/2008, at 2:15 PM, Vishwas Manral wrote:

I had raised issues about SIDR and we had a long healthy discussion on
it in February on the SIDR as well as the OPSEC lists.

I had written a draft too but I guess it did not get promoted enough.
Do have a look at :

www.archivum.info/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2008-02/msg00035.html and let me know
what you think about the ideas of the draft.

Thanks,
Vishwas


WG Chair HAT *ON*

Vishwas,

Thanks for your pointer and the reference you the draft you had written earlier this year.

The charter of the SIDR working group (http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/sidr-charter.html ) includes the following:

"Document specific routing functionality modules within this
architecture that are designed to address specific secure routing
requirements as they are determined by the RPSEC Working Group"

To date, the RPSEC Working Group has concluded that securing the origination of routing advertisements IS a secure routing requirement, and on that basis the SIDR Working Group has been working on mechanisms that will allow the origination of route objects to be secured. The work on ROAs in precisely focused on this requirement.

The comments you reference, and the draft you cite, appear to point to a requirement relating to AS path security, and the specification of mechanisms that would allow relying parties to detect efforts by third parties to place false information into the AS Path of a routing advertisement. This precise nature of this requirement has been the subject of an extended study in the RPSEC Working Group, and the precise security requirements arising from that study are still somewhat unclear at the moment. I refer you to the RPSEC Working Group and its drafts and mailing list archives for more details on this study. At this stage it is my understanding, as a co-chair of the SIDR Working Group, that the general subject of AS Path validation has not yet been passed over to SIDR as a well-defined security requirement from the RPSEC Working Group, or from the Area Director in the form of a revised charter for this Working Group.

At some stage its likely that this will be part of the SIDR WG activities, and your contributions regarding effective and secure mechanism to safeguard the AS Path from various forms of unauthorized alteration would be welcome. However, before you brush up your previous draft and resubmit it, you may find some broad background reading on this topic to be helpful to your contribution, as the topic of securing the inter-domain routing system is one that has been the subject of a considerable number of research and operational papers as well as the subject of various efforts in the IETF and elsewhere over the past decade or so.

kind regards,

 Geoff Huston

  This time speaking as the co-chair of this Working Group




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