Sorry not to be clear.

In the absence of consensus in the wg, Matt gets to make the choice.

Clearer?

--Sandy, speaking as wg chair


On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Geoff Huston wrote:

Wg Chair:

That would be fine if the note you quoted included a choice of direction. I see 
no such choice, and instead I see the careful use of a neutral stance on the 
part of the note's author. So what exactly is the guidance being given here?

 Geoff


On 15/06/2010, at 3:25 AM, Sandra Murphy wrote:

There has been too little discussion of this to say that there is any consensus 
of the wg.

So Matt's choice of direction stands.

--Sandy, speaking as wg chair

On Wed, 12 May 2010, Sandra Murphy wrote:


Matt Lepinski requested that the wg chairs judge consensus on the following 
topics.  Both topics were discussed in the sidr IETF 77 meeting, but consensus 
was not clear at the time.

Please send your thoughts on the following to the list so that the wg chairs 
can give guidance on the drafts to the author.

--Sandy, speaking as wg chair


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Matt Lepinski <[email protected]>
To: Sandra Murphy <[email protected]>, Chris Morrow <[email protected]>
Subject: Request to Chairs for Concensus Calls

There are two issues which I brought up at the meeting, for which I would like 
to determine if the working group has achieved concensus.

First [arch]: Scope of the architecture document. Following two choices:

A) The architecture document covers only the RPKI with no discussion of 
applications. It describes behaivor for entities that want to be a part of the 
RPKI, but is silent on how relying parties use this data
 (this requires only minor revisions to the current document)

B) The architecture document expands to include some discussion of origin 
validation in a partial deployment setting
(this requires more significant changes to the current document, and will 
create a normative dependency on roa-validation)

At the meeting we heard views on both sides. I believe that Sam was the only 
vocal proponent of (B). I believe that Rob A, Geoff, Danny and Ruediger were 
proponents of (A).


Second [roa-format]: Cautionary text in the document

A) I put some "make-before-break" cautionary text in the security 
considerations of the ROA Format document. (Similar text will remain in the architecture 
documnet ... and could potentially be put in other places as well.)

B) The ROA Format document is the wrong place for such text, since ROA format only talks 
about things within the ROA wrapper ... and the "make-before-break" issue is 
actually larger since it applies not just to ROAs but also to resource certificates 
higher up the chain.

Note: The cautionary text will stay in architecture regardless (and indeed I 
think I can even improve that text in light of the discussions at the meeting). 
It's possible that such warning text could [additionally] be reasonably put in 
the security considerations of ROA-Validation and/or Rescert profile.

I heard a lot of opinions during the meeting. However, I'm not convinced that 
anyone feels strongly enough about this issue to justify holding up this 
document for prolonged discussion.



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