On Jan 17, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Chi wrote:

> On 1/17/2013 4:23 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04
> 
> This revision clarifies the wording on route leaks as a residual 
> vulnerability, addressing a comment by Chris Morrow.

I have a few problems with this draft, and in particular, with the new text:
- The anecdote at the top of the modified paragraph on page 19 says, ``It has 
been stated that...'' without a citation, however, the paragraph then goes on 
to say that without an _RFC_ citation we cannot address route leaks.  I would 
submit that moving from anecdotal hearsay to omission without a normative 
reference is an awkward transition.
- While there is no definition of a route leak in an RFC, there is an entire 
GROW draft dedicated to it.
- I also don't understand how the text in this (a threats document) can claim 
that route leaks are beyond the scope of PATHSEC in a fait accompli manner...  
This is a threats document, right?  This is a threat to BGP, right?  The RPKI 
provides semantics that ``BGP, itself does not include semantics...'' for... I 
don't think applying this exclusion to route leaks survives a sniff test.

Overall, I think the threats document is still missing a badly needed treatise 
on route leaks.  I would suggest a good starting point for informational 
reading might be the draft:
        
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-grow-simple-leak-attack-bgpsec-no-help-00

Eric
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