Hi,

From: Stephen Kent <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, 24 July 2014 5:20 pm
To: Tim Bruijnzeels <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [sidr] I-D Action: 
draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-validation-reconsidered-00.txt

Tim,

I think I was not clear in requesting clarification for your tests. I didn't 
mean to
ask what your RP code does. I was asking what your CA code does to detect and 
reject
over-claiming, and what it will do under relaxed validation rules. I ask 
because it
may be harder to perform such checks when there is an explicit intent to issue 
a CA cert
that contains INRs not present in the parent cert.

I can't speak for RIPE, but at APNIC when a child requests a certificate for 
us, we intersect it with our registry data, and our own CA certificate.  What 
we cannot do is confirm that our own parent hasn't in the meantime published a 
new certificate for us with some resource removed: we can only detect that 
after it has happened, and it would be preferable that detection leads to 
correction without an intermediate step of total invalidation of a region.

In a perfect world, of course, no process would ever lead to a parent shrinking 
their child's certificate without adequate communication and preparation, but 
if we were in a perfect world, a large part of the use case for SIDR would be 
gone, because no router operator would ever make an erroneous BGP announcement.

  Byron

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