Hi Steve,

> On 26 Jul 2016, at 20:41, Stephen Kent <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> As I said earlier there are circumstances where we as RIPE NCC are bound to 
>> reclaim resources from holders against their will. And however "unwanted" 
>> this may be by the holder of the resources, this is not because we bear 
>> these holders any ill will (and actually in most cases there is no dispute). 
>> Reclaiming resources is based on policy discussed in a bottom-up policy 
>> development process in our address policy working group. Calling this 
>> "adverse" implies that the holder is "right", and RIPE NCC is "wrong" in 
>> these cases.
> Use of the term does not imply that the INR holder is right and the CA is 
> wrong. The fact that you keep using RIPE as the example CA suggests, to me, 
> that you are biased and very defensive, in your interpretation of the term.

I keep using RIPE as an example because I am speaking out of my own experience 
- an experience that I believe is relevant to this discussion. And while I 
expect that others who act as parent CA, at any level, might share my concern, 
I don't presume to speak on their behalf.


Tim



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