Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-ops-13: No Objection

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I reviewed -12 but I think all these comments are as
(ir)relevant as ever;-)

- general: given where we are with deployment I wonder
would it be a good idea if this document explicitly said
sometthing to the effect that "it's early days, this is
what we think is the BCP but that may change over time, so
while we think doing this is right, be careful to not
paint yourself into a corner when doing this."

- intro: this seems to say: first do rpki and only when
that's finished start on bgpsec - is that really what's
meant? The rest of the document makes me doubt that. I
think what you maybe meant was "Any specific ASN needs to
have setup RPKI for itself before it can speak BGPsec." 

- intro, 3rd para: where are the "special operational
considerations" explained? A reference would be good.  If
there's no good reference, I'm not clear why saying this
is useful. (Actual operators might find this clear of
course, in which case, please ignore me.)

- section 2: this refers to the BGPsec overview which
refers back to this document, but says that this is
informational rather than a BCP. Just noting that in case
there's confusion and that's not just a typo or a case of
the overview not having been updated. I expect the fix is
to change the text in the overview.

- section 5: What does "fully BGPSEC enabled" mean
exactly? That could be referring to signing or to
validation of signatures (with or without hard fails) or
to never emitting unsigned or accepting unsigned
announcements or to some combination of the above.  It
might be better to avoid use of such a term in order to
avoid having to define it for now. (This relates also to
the mail subsequent to Mirja's comments.)

- section 7: MED could do with expansion and a reference.

- section 7: I'm not clear what you mean by "RPKI version
skew." You could explain that or maybe use another basis
to explain why R0 and R1 might disagree, e.g. revocation
status info availability or freshness maybe.

- section 8: "forward signed to R" is a bit opaque (for me
anyway, before I read the protocol draft). Maybe better to
explain this a bit more.

- I-D nits complains about some easily fixable things
(about which I do not care:-)


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