Hi!

I'm using SIESTA to calculate different sulfuric acid clusters, As a standard procedure, I used to leave SIESTA choose the unit cell (minimum+10%) but then I realized that the cell was not large enough, so I make some test increasing the cell size until I get the same value for energy and frequencies in two sizes. The problem is that I'm not able to find that limit, Here are some results:

For Sulfuric acid neutral molecule:

Cell            Eo (kcal/mol)   G(kcal/mol) (calculated using frequencies)
Automatic       -50582.74383    4.846501
10 10 10        -50582.58026    5.317222
20  20 20       -50582.40954    5.345038
30 30 30        -50582.39213    5.754734
40 40 40        -50582.3914     5.348183
50 50 50        -50582.38766    5.60117

In this case the problem is G calculation (so frequencies) that seems to fluctuate instead of converging to some value.

For the sulfuric acid dimmer the situation is even worst:

Cell     Eo(kcal/mol)    G(kcal/mol)
auto    -101196.8922    25.892183
10      -101196.709     25.702404
20      -101197.1805    23.643095
30      -101197.1229    26.935893
40      -101197.1984    23.479595
50      -101197.1391    24.773543

Here I get differences in G of 3.3 kcal...

And for the Bisulfate ion even worst (just have electronic energies for that one):

Cell      Eo (kcal/mol)
auto    -50218.69544
10      -50221.10954
20      -50224.1256
30      -50224.41819
40      -50224.50091
50      -50224.54037

Here the differences in electronic energy between the automatic cell and >20 is around 6 kcal/mol (still running FC calculations)

Any way the main problem is that G is not converging to some value, is jumping up and down, so I don't have any criteria to choose one cell size.

Some idea of what is going wrong here??

Thank you in advance


I.K. Ortega

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 Dr. Ismael Kenneth Ortega Colomer
 postdoc researcher
 Atmospheric Sciences Division
 Dynamicum 1D16b
 University of Helsinki
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 ResearcherID: http://www.researcherid.com/rid/A-7930-2008
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