Dear Prof. Postnikov,

I set WriteMullikenPop 1 and I can check the Mulliken charges following the
instruction in your lecture after the calculation finished. I found the
magnetic moment raise from the 3d electrons in the Fe atom as expect.

But I still don't know how to check the Mulliken charges when the job is
running and further judge the convergence of the calculation, since I can
not find anything about the Mulliken charges in the output file in the
process.

Thank you in advance!

Best regards,

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Bin Shao <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Prof. Postnikov,
>
> Thank you for your suggestion and the excellent lecture is what I need now,
> thank you very much!
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:35 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> >
>> >>it is normal that as you increase your system to include many
>> >> >equivalent (or almost) atoms
>> >
>> > I do not understand why many equivalent atoms will affect the
>> convergence.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I explained it already:
>> >> because of electrons flopping between nearly degenerate states.
>> In other words, the states just under the Fermi energy can be
>> occupied in different way, and the electrons are just shifted around,
>> without reaching the convergence.
>>
>> >>To get an idea, look at the results (Mulliken charges; DOS)
>> >> >underway, after some number of iterations.
>> >
>> > Could you give me some ditails about checking the results of Mulliken
>> > charges or DOS after some number of iterations?
>>
>> You print out Mulliken charges, there is a switch for it.
>> You look at them and think whether they are as you expect
>> (i.e., the atoms which ought to be magnetic are magnetic,
>> and in a right way).
>> Check if you find anything useful in the following lecture:
>> http://www.home.uni-osnabrueck.de/apostnik/Lectures/APostnikov-Magnets.pdf
>>
>> > Usually, I just check the following information of the scf.
>>
>> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > siesta: iscf   Eharris(eV)      E_KS(eV)   FreeEng(eV)   dDmax  Ef_up
>> > Ef_dn(eV)
>> >  ......
>> > siesta:  799   -32180.0924   -32180.0919   -32180.0919  0.0011  -3.0670
>> > -3.0670
>> > siesta:  800   -32180.0924   -32180.0919   -32180.0919  0.0011  -3.0670
>> > -3.0670
>> ...
>> > siesta:  826   -32180.0929   -32180.0925   -32180.0925  0.0010  -3.0669
>> > -3.0669
>> > siesta:  827   -32180.0931   -32180.0927   -32180.0927  0.0010  -3.0668
>> > -3.0668
>> > ......
>>
>> This is good but does not tell you anything but that your calculation
>> is not quite converged.
>> In fact it doesn't look like a divergence, and the Fermi level(s) are
>> not a priori unreasonable. So, before doing anything else, try
>> to make sense out of your calculation (position of bands, magnetic
>> moments, etc.)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > I'd like to increase the DM.MixingWeight to 0.3 to accelerate the
>> > calculation. Is it correct?
>>
>> If it smoothly converges to a right solution, that's fine.
>> But I'd rather suggest, with system as large as yours, to be
>> more prudent. 0.3 is a huge mixing weight.
>>
>> > Since you said I need a small mixing
>> > parameter,
>> > how to understand the mixing parameter? I read some notes about
>> > DM.MxingWeight, but there is still something puzzled me.
>> >
>> > alpha has to be small (0.1-0.3) for insulator and semiconductors,
>> > tipically much smaller for metals.
>>
>> Yes; what is the problem? In metals you need a good sampling of states
>> near the Fermi level; imagine you have a narrow band which shifts
>> across the E_f; then you'd like to damp the resulting fluctuations.
>> In semiconductors the situation is (usually) less critical because
>> bands are either occupied or empty.
>>
>> > BTW, whether my setting of the antiferromagnetism is correct.
>>
>> I don't know the structure, sorry. Apart from this - yes;
>> some Fe atoms marked "+" and others "-", as it should be.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Andrei Postnikov
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Bin Shao
> College of Information Technical Science, Nankai University
> 94 Weijin Rd. Nankai Dist. Tianjin 300071, China
> Email: [email protected]
>



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College of Information Technical Science, Nankai University
94 Weijin Rd. Nankai Dist. Tianjin 300071, China
Email: [email protected]

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