Dear SIESTA community:

  I have a question regarding the structural optimization using conjugate 
gradient (CG)
method. Please refer to the following link for a jpg file.

http://cid-9a67d79e72d7a93d.photos.live.com/self.aspx/myfile/Energy-Force-CG.jpg

  As you can see from the above jpg file, I show the maximum atomic force and 
energy as 
a function of CG steps in process of structural optimization. Usually, we 
expect energy 
goes down with CG steps, in the meantime the maximum force decreases. However, 
we did 
not see this happens in our case. The force flucturates a lot around 0.25 
eV/Ang, (we use 
0.04 eV/Ang as optimization standard) and more surprisingly, the energy goes 
down and 
climbs up a big "hill" about 5 eV. This is difficult for us to understand.

  Our calculation was to study hole doping effect, we did succeed in optimizing 
our 
structure with "NetCharge" below 5 electrons. But when the "NetCharge" was 
increased 
to 8, the optimization becomes elusive. 

  Our question is 

   (1) How to understand such behaviour (in our picture above) in CG method? 
   (2) Is there any other (better) way to reach structural optimization if 
       "NetCharge" is nonzero and "SlabDipoleCorrection" is issued?

Thanks alot!

HHG     

Here is our input file:
===========start of input.fdf==== ============
SystemName     Si-buck-surf
SystemLabel    Si-buck-surf
NumberOfAtoms       56
Diag.ParallelOverK   T
SolutionMethod  diagon
NumberOfSpecies      2

######################################
NetCharge            8
SlabDipoleCorrection .true.
SimulateDoping       .true.
######################################

%block ChemicalSpeciesLabel
    1  14  Si
    2   1   H
%endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel

LatticeConstant 10.858 Ang
%block LatticeVectors
  1.000 0.000  0.000
  0.000 1.000  0.000
  0.000 0.000 10.000
%endblock LatticeVectors

XC_functional  LDA
XC_authors     CA

%block PS.lmax
 Si   2
%endblock PS.lmax

%block kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack
   6  0  0  0.0
   0  6  0  0.0
   0  0  1  0.0
%endblock kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack

PAO.EnergyShift   50. meV
MeshCutoff        200. Ry
DM.UseSaveDM      F
MaxSCFiterations  200
DM.MixingWeight   0.10
DM.NumberPulay    3

MD.NumCGsteps  200
MD.TypeOfRun   CG
MD.UseSaveXV   F
MD.UseSaveCG   F
SaveDeltaRho   F
SaveRho        F

AtomicCoordinatesFormat Ang
%block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies
   6.0665 10.2920 -5.3505    1  #Si
  -2.1063  2.4262 -5.0860    1  #Si
  -0.8249 -0.8868  0.8493    2  #H
......
===========end of input.fdf================




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