Thanks Ricardo! I'll try to do that and I'll let you know the outcome.

Cheers,

Marcos

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Ricardo Faccio <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Marcos
> I think that you procedure is fine. The problem with vesta is that it needs
> yo save changes by step. I mean, first Open your file and remove the
> symmetry, and get a p1 structure. Then save it as a cif file. Afyer this
> read this file and perform the transformation, and save it as a different
> cif file. Finally load it and apply the symmetry, if you want, and get
> another cif file. If you have further problems send me your sf and i'll try
> to check it
>
> Regards
> Ricardo
>
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> El 06/04/2011, a las 10:27, Marcos Veríssimo Alves <
> [email protected]> escribió:
>
>
>  Hi all,
>>
>> So, great to know there are knowledgeable people on Vesta in the mailing
>> list. My question is the following: I have a cubic structure, a perovskite.
>> I have a [sqrt(2) x sqrt(2)] cell of this structure, with relaxed positions
>> with rotated oxygen octahedra in the x-y plane only, out of which I would
>> like to create a [2 x 2] cell. I actually managed to do it (using a xsf file
>> that i created from the xyz output), but in a way which I would not call the
>> most elegant. It is also a way that is more prone to errors, than I wish it
>> were.
>>
>> The problem is, when one loads an xsf file with the coordinates in Vesta,
>> it displays a structure with more atoms than the unit cell actually does,
>> and apparently it is the equivalent of XCrysDen's conventional cell mode.
>> However, one can choose, in XCrysDen, to display only the translational
>> asymmetric unit. This is one thing I don't know how to do in Vesta. For a
>> matter of convenience (laziness, actually :) ), I have set both PRIMVEC and
>> CONVVEC to the cubic lattice vectors, in the xsf file.
>>
>> Although I have managed to create a [2 x 2] cell, starting from the
>> [sqrt(2) x sqrt(2)] using a transformation matrix (easy to deduce), I have
>> to eliminate some atoms by setting boundaries to the fractional coordinates
>> and checking that the number of atoms is actually the expected number. In
>> the case of a [2 x 2] cell, of course, we have 4 times as many atoms as in
>> the [1 x 1] cell. However, I would be more reassured if there were an
>> automatic way to guarantee that the correct number of atoms would be output,
>> instead of having to make somewhat extensive checks to ensure this.
>>
>> Another doubt is about symmetrization of atomic coordinates. If I choose a
>> space group for Vesta to symmetrize the atoms' coordinates, it ends up
>> creating extra atoms which I can't seem to eliminate - at least i don't know
>> the correct way to do it. I have tried the option "remove duplicate atoms",
>> but it didn't work. Has anyone run into such problems?
>>
>> If things are not clear, I'll be glad to provide an xsf file to illustrate
>> the issues.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Marcos
>>
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