Ciao Roberto, Hi Alexander,
                thanks for the kind advices.
Actually, my geometry optimizations where initially performed on a slab where only the bottom layer was kept frozen. Then on such optimized structure I have frozen also the second layer, considering that if I want to study the mechanism of anchoring only the top layer (24 atoms) and the 2 molecules (As I told I am trying to compare my results with those of an experimental spectrum obtained at high concentration of adsorbate) anchored on top of it will contribute to the IR spectrum.

Then I have reduced even more the convergence on the forces. Let's say from 0.05 eV/Ang to 0.01 eV/Ang. I did the FC calculation getting these "glorious" results... :(

I wonder if the Asymmetric nature of the slab can play a role in my results. In other words I was wondering if for example the negative (Really a too Large number) Frequencies can be due to the vibrational modes of surface atoms (the top layer for which I am also calculating the Frequencies) on top of which the organic molecules are anchored.

In other words, should I consider only the Frequencies of the adsorbed molecule? Or am I free to include atoms of the surface?

Roberto, regarding your advice to check if for
opposite displacements I am getting opposite forces, I wonder if you refer to a Symmetric slab with molecules anchored on both top and bottom layer.


Thanks a lot!

Very best regards,
Giacomo





On Thu, 6 Sep 2012, R.C.Pasianot wrote:


Ciao Giacomo,

I know nothing about Born charges, but did FC calculations a number
of times: 67 negative frequencies out of 132 means your calculation
is garbage. FC calculations are quite delicate in the sense that you
need, 1st very well relaxed structures, and 2nd very well converged
forces in the FC calculation step.
At 1st glance, the only thing I wonder regarding your data file is
if those 400 Ry of MeshCutoff are large enough to eliminate the
egg box effect for a box having an edge of 40 Ang along z axis.
This might be affecting force precision while evaluating the FC
matrix. You might tell if something along these speculations is
going on by looking at the FC file itself; watch e.g. if for
opposite displacements you are getting opposite forces, check that
the largest force occurs on the atom being displaced, that the
total force for the whole bov is a good zero. etc.

Good luck,

Roberto


On Thu, 6 Sep 2012, Giacomo Giorgi wrote:

Dear All,
I am doing for the first times the calculation of Frequency with SIESTA. My system is an asymmetric slab (2 bottom layers are frozen) and on top of it I anchored an organic molecule.

In total 92 atoms. But freezing the first two layers I need to know the frequencies of only 44 atoms, i.e. 44*3 =132 Eigenvectors.

Anyway, by checking both the .bands and the .vectors files I observe that the frequencies are highly underestimated with respect to the experimental ones (my last calculated frequency, the 132nd, is at 1649.101 cm-1, while
experimentally a net visible peak is at 2900 cm-1)

Moreover the first 67 (!!) of 132 Eigenvectors are characterized by a negative Frequency.

Below my Vibra .fdf
Any comment and hint is extremely appreciated.
Additionally, as previously posted (but no answer) even if I set

BornCharge True

in the fdf, no .BC file was generated thus no IR Spectrum... :(


Many thanks,
Giacomo





SystemName         101
SystemLabel        101

################# options for Vibra ####################
Eigenvectors  .true.
SuperCell_1          0
SuperCell_2          0
SuperCell_3          0

BandLinesScale ReciprocalLatticeVectors

%block BandLines
 1 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma
%endblock BandLines

# Kpoints
KPointMPSampling   F

%block PolarizationGrids
6 3 3
4 8 4
5 5 10
%endblock PolarizationGrids
BornCharge True

########################################################

MD.TypeOfRun           FC          # Type of dynamics:
MD.FCfirst            49
MD.FClast             92
MD.FCdispl      0.02 ang

NumberOfAtoms      44
NumberOfSpecies      4

%block ChemicalSpeciesLabel
 1  22  Ti
 2   8  O
 3   6  C
 4   1  H
%endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel

PAO.BasisSize DZP
XC.functional LDA
XC.authors    CA

ElectronicTemperature   1500.0 K

LatticeConstant     1. Ang
%block LatticeVectors
7.569           0               0
0               10.2394           0
0               0               40
%endblock LatticeVectors

MeshCutoff         400.0 Ry

MaxSCFIterations     200
DM.MixingWeight      0.008
DM.NumberPulay       5
DM.Tolerance         1.d-4

ParallelOverK           .true.
SolutionMethod       diagon

WriteDM           .true.
DM.UseSaveDM      .true.

PAO.EnergyShift  0.01 Ry


MD.MaxForceTol      0.01 eV/Ang

WriteForces             true
WriteCoorCerius         true
WriteCoorXmol           true
WriteMullikenPop        1
WriteMDXmol             true

UseSaveData     .true.

%block GeometryConstraints
position from 1 to 48 # 2 layers
%endblock GeometryConstraints


AtomicCoordinatesFormat NotScaledCartesianAng
%block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies
....
....
%endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies






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*   Giacomo Giorgi                                               *
*   Assistant Professor                                          *
*   Research Center for Advanced Science and Technology (RCAST), *
*   The University of Tokyo                                      *
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una nostalgia, nostalgia al gusto di curacao...
Forse un giorno meglio mi spieghero'..."

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