Thank you for your answer Valentin,

but sadly I don't fully understand it. In the constraint routine I overwrite the forces acting on the atoms along the z-axis with my custom defined ones. What other forces are there, or what do you mean with external forces?

I also don't understand, even in the presence of other, to me unknown, forces, why it behaves correct (but in my opinion isn't physically correct any longer) if I apply the identical force to each atom regardless of their mass and it doesn't behave correct if I apply a weighted (depending on their mass) force (which is physically correct in my opinion) to each atom. In the case of the weighted force, all atoms with the same mass move homogeneously.

Best wishes,
Frank




On 08/13/2013 09:54 AM, Valentin Karasiev wrote:
Frank,

do not forget, the external force you apply is not the only force acting on atoms. In the case of bigger external force, the interatomic forces may be neglected. In the case of smaller external force, interatomic forces should be taken into account. It seems you are observing namely that in your calculations.

Valentin.

On 08/13/2013 04:49 AM, Frank Maier wrote:
Hello,

I try to add a constraint to my system using the constraint routine in Fortran using the latest SIESTA Trunk 433. Sadly I encountered an issue which I was able to break down to a simple test system:

I want to apply a force of 1eV/Ang along the z-axis homogeneously to the DNA base Thymine which consists of 15 atoms in total. In order to do this, I first calculate the sum of the mass of all atoms and then apply a weighted force along the z-axis to each atom depending on their mass relative to the whole mass of the molecule (the code is attached at the end of the mail).

If I do this, the hydrogen atoms barely move, oxygen atoms move the most, followed by nitrogen and carbon. So depending on their mass, they move differently.

If I apply 1/15 eV/Ang to each atom however, they move equivalently, which shouldn't happen in my opinion. If I apply a force of 1N to a mass of 1kg it should have a different impact compared to a force of 1N to a mass of 16kg.


In principle, for my real simulation, i want to preserve the relative height of atoms in a molecule, identical to how it gets done in the Siesta manual example:
fz = fa(3,1) + fa(3,2)
fa(3,1) = fz * amass(1)/(amass(1)+amass(2))
fa(3,2) = fz * amass(2)/(amass(1)+amass(2))
But this suffers the same problem, the atoms just move differently, depending on their mass. So exactly the opposite to how it should happen.

Can someone help me.

Below is the constraint routine I use attached and also the simulation file so you can understand what I've done.

Thank you for your help,
Frank Maier



########### CONSTRAINT ROUTINE ###########
  implicit         none
  integer          na, isa(na), ntcon
  double precision amass(na), cell(3,3), fa(3,na),
  .                 stress(3,3), xa(3,na)
  double precision force_z
  double precision mass_sum
  integer          counter

c Write here your problem-specific code

  ! sum all masses
  mass_sum = 0
  counter = 1
  do while (counter <= 15)
    mass_sum = mass_sum + amass(counter)
    counter = counter + 1
  end do

  ! drag it along the z axis by setting an average force to all atoms
  force_z = 0.038895
  counter = 1
  do while (counter <= 15)
    fa(3, counter) = force_z * amass(counter)/mass_sum
    counter = counter + 1
  end do


  ! number of constraints
  ntcon = 1

  end



########### SIESTA INPUT FILE ###########
SystemName             simulation

SystemLabel            simulation

NumberOfAtoms          15
NumberOfSpecies        4

%block Chemical_Species_label
       1  6   C
       2  1   H
       3  7   N
       4  8   O
%endblock Chemical_Species_label

LatticeConstant    1 Ang

%block LatticeVectors
  20.0 0.0 0.0
  0.0 20.0 0.0
  0.0 0.0 20.0
%endblock LatticeVectors

AtomicCoordinatesFormat NotScaledCartesianAng

%block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies
  -0.055415     4.678721     0.046505    4    1    O
   0.056186     0.053516     0.044754    4    2    O
  -2.040067     3.505861    -0.185110    3    3    N
  -0.021091     2.357257     0.016693    3    4    N
  -0.646655     3.608724    -0.032440    1    5    C
  -0.631420     1.071320    -0.034209    1    6    C
  -2.096698     1.092563    -0.183565    1    7    C
  -2.817098    -0.233357    -0.250395    1    8    C
  -2.727280     2.298413    -0.253138    1    9    C
   0.990177     2.373717     0.118928    2    10    H
  -2.534782     4.389011    -0.226380    2    11    H
  -3.804217     2.386022    -0.365223    2    12    H
  -3.898566    -0.088334    -0.347702    2    13    H
  -2.456966    -0.824419    -1.102264    2    14    H
  -2.614350    -0.824912     0.651503    2    15    H
%endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies

%block GeometryConstraints
  routine constr
%endblock GeometryConstraints

PAO.BasisSize        TZP
PAO.BasisType        split

PAO.EnergyShift        10.0 meV

PAO.SplitNorm        0.20
PAO.SplitNormH        0.50

PAO.SoftDefault     true
PAO.SoftInnerRadius    0.9
PAO. SoftPotential    40.0 Ry

XC.functional          GGA
XC.authors             PBE
SpinPolarized        false

SolutionMethod        diagon

ElectronicTemperature    300 K

NeglNonOverlapInt    false

DM.MixingWeight        0.1

DM.Tolerance        1.d-4
DM.NumberPulay        4

MeshCutoff        250. Ry

MD.TypeOfRun           CG
MD.NumCGsteps          500
MD.MaxCGDispl          0.2 Bohr
MD.MaxForceTol         0.02 eV/Ang




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