OK. Now I understand.
Thank you.

Best regards,

/Guangping

On 04/27/2015 07:02 PM, Pu ZHANG wrote:
I'm not familiar with SIESTA, but in case some electrons might contribute to the interested energy range, however they are too expensive to consider explicitly, like the d wlwcteons of noble metals. Phenomenological description is an approximation. This is what I meant.

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Guangping Zhang <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Dear Pu Zhang,

    As far as I know, the Drude term in SIESTA is omega_p*omega_p, and
    the Drude contribution to the dielectric function is added by the
    simple Drude model,

    -omega_p*omega_p/omega/(omega+i*gamma)

    where i is the imaginary unit. Therefore, Drude term used in
    SIESTA is to account for the effect of the free electrons.
    However, for cluster in SIESTA, all the transitions from occupied
    to unoccupied orbitals are taken into account in the interested
    energy range. I think this would include the 'free electrons' and
    the 'bound electrons' in the energy range in the current framework
    in SIESTA.

    So, what do you mean by "a contribution from deeper transitions",
    could you please give more information on this?


    /Guangping


    On 04/27/2015 05:11 PM, Pu ZHANG wrote:
    I suppose the so-called intraband contribution is just the part
    of the permittivity which is not described by the simple Drude
    model. Then it doesn't necessarily apply to bulk material. For
    cluster it can also get contribution from deeper transitions. I
    guess it's possible to implement this somehow...


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    On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Guangping Zhang <[email protected]
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        Dear Eliya,

        For a cluster, I think there is no energy bands, therefore no
        intraband transition.

        /Guangping

        On 2015/4/27 14:43, Eliya Asmani wrote:
        Dear Guangping

        Thanks for the your quick reply.
        As I know the intarband transition (Drude term) is very
        important for my case.
        I'm so sorry! What is your mean about  "Drude term is only
        for a system with at least one dimension periodical" you
        mean the Siesta code can't calculate for cluster system or
        Drude term is not important in cluster system?

        Eliya

        On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Guangping Zhang
        <[email protected]
        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:

            Dear Eliya,

            I think you do not need to include the Durde term for a
            cluster calculation. The Drude term is only available
            for a system with at least one dimension periodical.

            Kind regards,

            /Guangping

            On 04/27/2015 12:44 PM, Eliya Asmani wrote:
            Dear user

            I want to calculate real and imaginary parts of the
            permittivity for some metals
            (for cluster not bulk).
            How can I include Drude term for intarband transition
            of the permittivity?

            In the *.EPSIMG, (was generated after optical
            calculation) the value of W_p is written 0.000. I think
            this value should be non-zero, to include Drude term.
            How can I determinate W_p?

            Regards,
            Eliya







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