Hi Fei,

are you sure your Fermi level is correct?

--Zhen

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Gul Rahman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Are you calculating the bandgap at the Gamma Point?
> It is around 8.40 eV at Gamma point (my test calculation). Sure, this will
> be different at the other symmetry points in the BZ.
> Gul
>
> Dr. Gul Rahman
> Assistant Professor,
> Department of Physics,
> Quaid-i-Azam University,
> Islamabad, Pakistan
> http://www.qau.edu.pk/profile.php?id=818020
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 6 August 2015, 16:36, 毛飞 <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Zhen and Rahman
>
> Thank you for your useful suggestions. Please excuse me to bother you
> again.
>
> I calculate the band structure of LiF again, and I think I have already
> corrected the errors in the new input file, but the result is still
> unreasonable, the band gap of LiF is 15.8 eV (it is too large). You are
> right, the structure of LiF is the same with NaCl. I define the primitive
> cell as the simulation cell (see block LatticeVectors) in the input file.
>
> Regards,
>
> Fei
>
> #################### Input file #######################
> SystemName          bulk.LiF
> SystemLabel         bulk_LiF
>
> NumberOfAtoms       2
> NumberOfSpecies     2
>
> %block ChemicalSpeciesLabel
>  1    3    Li
>  2    9    F
> %endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel
>
> # basis
> PAO.BasisSize       DZP
> PAO.EnergyShift     200 meV
>
> LatticeConstant    4.08  Ang          # Lattice constant alat
> %block LatticeVectors                 # primitive cell
>   0.000  0.500  0.500
>   0.500  0.000  0.500
>   0.500  0.500  0.000
> %endblock LatticeVectors
>
> %block kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack
>  10 0 0   0.0
>  0 10 0   0.0
>  0 0 10   0.0
> %endblock kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack
>
>
> BandLinesScale  ReciprocalLatticeVectors
> %block BandLines
> 1     0.0   0.0   0.0     # Gamma-point
> 20    0.5   0.0   0.5     # X-point
> 30    0.5   0.25  0.75    # W-point
> 30    0.375 0.375 0.75    # K-point
> 30    0.0   0.0   0.0     # Gamma-point
> %endblock BandLines
>
>
> %block  ProjectedDensityOfStates
>  -20 10 0.1  300    eV
> %endblock ProjectedDensityOfStates
>
> MeshCutoff          300.0 Ry
>
> # SCF options
> MaxSCFIterations      100           # Maximum number of SCF iter
> DM.NumberPulay         3            # One Pulay every 3 iter
> DM.MixingWeight       0.35         # New DM amount for next SCF cycle
> DM.Tolerance          5.d-4         # Tolerance in maximum difference
>
> SolutionMethod        diagon        # OrderN or Diagon
> OccupationFunction    FD
> ElectronicTemperature  25 meV       # Temp. for Fermi smearing
>
> # exchange-correlation functional
> XC.functional LDA
> XC.authors CA
>
>
> # structural infomation
> AtomCoorFormatOut Ang
>
> # output information
> WriteCoorXmol T
> WriteMDXmol T
> WriteForces T
>
> WriteKpoints            .true.
> WriteEigenvalues        .true.
> WriteKbands             .true.
> WriteBands              .true.
> WriteMullikenPop        1
>
> # options for MD
> MD.MaxForceTol          0.01 eV/Ang
> MD.TypeOfRun CG
> MD.NumCGSteps 400
> MD.Broyden.History.Steps 6
> MD.Broyden.Initial.Inverse.Jacobian 1.0
>
> # options for continue
> # MD.UseSaveCG T                        # neccessary!
> # MD.UseSaveXV T                        # neccessary!
> # DM.UseSaveDM          true            # to use continuae..ion files
>
>
> AtomicCoordinatesFormat ScaledCartesian # Format for coordinates
> AtomicCoorFormatOut     Ang
>
> %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies
>      0.00000         0.00000         0.00000         1
>      0.50000         0.50000         0.50000         2
> %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies
>
>
>
> 在2015-08-05,Gul Rahman <[email protected]> 写道:
>
> -----原始邮件-----
> *发件人:* Gul Rahman <[email protected]>
> *发送时间:* 2015年8月5日 星期三
> *收件人:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *主题:* Re: [SIESTA-L] The energy band gap of LiF
>
> Hello,
> As suggested by Dr.  Zhen that your unit cell is wrong. In your input file
> you are considering a BCC lattice using the conventional unit cell. I guess
> you want to use the primitive cell of LiF, but you have used wrong lattice
> vectors for the primitive cell of LiF. I dont know the exact structure of
> LiF, but I guess it is NaCl-type structure. If it is NaCl-type then you can
> easily use the primitive lattice vectors of FCC lattice, and use the
> fractional coordinates (only two atoms). You can also use the conventional
> unit cell as given by Zen, but it will take longer computational time,
> which we always want to reduce:)
> Plz, always visualise your structure before calculating its properties,
> e.g., band, optical, etc.
> I hope it will help.
> Good Luck for LiF.
> Gul
>
> Dr. Gul Rahman
> Assistant Professor,
> Department of Physics,
> Quaid-i-Azam University,
> Islamabad, Pakistan
> http://www.qau.edu.pk/profile.php?id=818020
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 5 August 2015, 10:07, Zhen Zhu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Fei,
>
> your unit cell is wrong.
>
> Here is the correct conventional unit cell:
> Li4 F4
> 1.0
>         4.0834274292         0.0000000000         0.0000000000
>         0.0000000000         4.0834274292         0.0000000000
>         0.0000000000         0.0000000000         4.0834274292
>    Li    F
>     4    4
> Cartesian
>      0.000000000         0.000000000         0.000000000
>      0.000000000         2.041713715         2.041713715
>      2.041713715         0.000000000         2.041713715
>      2.041713715         2.041713715         0.000000000
>      0.000000000         2.041713715         0.000000000
>      0.000000000         0.000000000         2.041713715
>      2.041713715         2.041713715         2.041713715
>      2.041713715         0.000000000         0.000000000
>
> Good luck
> --Zhen
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 9:59 PM, 毛飞 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Dear Khan and Rahman
> I calculate the band gap of LiF with the corrected input file, but the
> energy gap is still very large, is about 18 eV (see attachment). The input
> file is attached below.
>
> Any comment or suggestions?
> Regards,
>
> Fei
>
>
> ################### Input file #####################
> SystemName          bulk.LiF
> SystemLabel         bulk_LiF
>
> NumberOfAtoms       2
> NumberOfSpecies     2
>
> %block ChemicalSpeciesLabel
>  1    3    Li
>  2    9    F
> %endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel
>
> # basis
> PAO.BasisSize       DZP
> PAO.EnergyShift     200 meV
>
> LatticeConstant    4.02 Ang   # Lattice constant alat
> %block LatticeParameters      # conventional cell
> 1.00  1.00  1.00  90.0  90.0  90.0
> %endblock LatticeParameters
>
> %block kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack
>  10 0 0   0.0
>  0 10 0   0.0
>  0 0 10   0.0
> %endblock kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack
>
>
> BandLinesScale  ReciprocalLatticeVectors
> %block BandLines
> 1     0.0   0.0   0.0     # Gamma-point
> 20    0.5   0.0   0.5     # X-point
> 30    0.5   0.25  0.75    # W-point
> 30    0.0   0.0   0.0     # Gamma-point
> %endblock BandLines
>
>
> %block  ProjectedDensityOfStates
>  -20 10 0.1  300    eV
> %endblock ProjectedDensityOfStates
>
> MeshCutoff          300.0 Ry
>
> # SCF options
> MaxSCFIterations      100           # Maximum number of SCF iter
> DM.NumberPulay         3            # One Pulay every 3 iter
> DM.MixingWeight       0.35         # New DM amount for next SCF cycle
> DM.Tolerance          5.d-4         # Tolerance in maximum difference
>
> SolutionMethod        diagon        # OrderN or Diagon
> OccupationFunction    FD
> ElectronicTemperature  25 meV       # Temp. for Fermi smearing
>
> # exchange-correlation functional
> XC.functional LDA
> XC.authors CA
>
>
> # structural infomation
> AtomCoorFormatOut Ang
>
> # output information
> WriteCoorXmol T
> WriteMDXmol T
> WriteForces T
>
> WriteKpoints            .true.
> WriteEigenvalues        .true.
> WriteKbands             .true.
> WriteBands              .true.
> WriteMullikenPop        1
>
> # options for MD
> MD.MaxForceTol          0.01 eV/Ang
> MD.TypeOfRun CG
> MD.NumCGSteps 400
> MD.Broyden.History.Steps 6
> MD.Broyden.Initial.Inverse.Jacobian 1.0
>
> # options for continue
> # MD.UseSaveCG T                        # neccessary!
> # MD.UseSaveXV T                        # neccessary!
> # DM.UseSaveDM          true            # to use continuae..ion files
>
>
> AtomicCoordinatesFormat Fractional
> %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies     # Number of irreducible
> atoms in the conventional cell is 2
>   0.0000000      0.0000000      0.0000000               1     Li
>   0.5000000      0.5000000      0.5000000               2     F
> %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies
>
>
> 在2015-08-05,Younas Khan <[email protected]> 写道:
>
> -----原始邮件-----
> *发件人:* Younas Khan <[email protected]>
> *发送时间:* 2015年8月5日 星期三
> *收件人:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *主题:* Re: [SIESTA-L] The energy band gap of LiF
>
> I think you have incorrectly written the lattice vectors. Kindly check it,
> they may not be in proper format.
>
> Younas Khan
>
> On Tuesday, August 4, 2015, 毛飞 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Dear Rahman
>
> Thank you for your reply, I will try the calculation with your suggestions.
>
> Fei
>
> 在2015-08-04,Gul Rahman <[email protected]
> <http://stu.mail.bnu.edu.cn/jy3/editor/java_script:_e(%7B%7D,%27cvml%27,%[email protected]%27);>>
> 写道:
>
> -----原始邮件-----
> *发件人:* Gul Rahman <[email protected]
> <http://stu.mail.bnu.edu.cn/jy3/editor/java_script:_e(%7B%7D,%27cvml%27,%[email protected]%27);>
> >
> *发送时间:* 2015年8月4日 星期二
> *收件人:* "[email protected]
> <http://stu.mail.bnu.edu.cn/jy3/editor/java_script:_e(%7B%7D,%27cvml%27,%[email protected]%27);>"
> <[email protected]
> <http://stu.mail.bnu.edu.cn/jy3/editor/java_script:_e(%7B%7D,%27cvml%27,%[email protected]%27);>
> >
> *主题:* Re: [SIESTA-L] The energy band gap of LiF
>
> Dear Fei Mao,
> Yes, your band structure is strange, it has flat band (like molecules) and
> the band gap is very large, which is wrong.
> Plz, look carefully into your input file.
> First, try to reproduce the band structure and  lattice parameters of bulk
> (primitive) LiF, then you can generate the SuperCell either using your
> pencil in hands (:) or using the SIESTA or any other computer code. And
> then put the Atomic coordinates of the Supercell explicitly in your fdf
> file. You can see you have defined SuperCell (2x2x2) in your fdf file.
> Also, try to use fractional coordinates if you are dealing with a bulk
> system. Whenever you generate .XV file, you must visualise it to see what's
> going on.
> Also, your k-points sampling is not good for the bulk LiF system. You must
> use dense k-points. I will not use 1x1x1 for bulk. I have to converge it.
> I hope it may help.
> Regards,
> Gul
>
>
> Dr. Gul Rahman
> Assistant Professor,
> Department of Physics,
> Quaid-i-Azam University,
> Islamabad, Pakistan
> http://www.qau.edu.pk/profile.php?id=818020
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 4 August 2015, 14:21, 毛飞 <[email protected]
> <http://stu.mail.bnu.edu.cn/jy3/editor/java_script:_e(%7B%7D,%27cvml%27,%[email protected]%27);>>
> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Rahman and Vaghela
>
> Thank you for kind replies.
> The Fermi energy level is at -5.9 eV in the calculation, I modify the fig
> and mark the Fermi energy by a black line (which is attached). Now, I am
> puzzled by two points in this fig.
>
> 1.      As shown in the fig, the conduction and valence band are both
> composed by many straight lines, it seems to me very strange. Generally,
> these energy levels evolves smoothly with changes in k, forming a smooth
> band of states, and there are conduction band bottom and valence band top.
> However, these typical characters are absence in the fig.
>
> 2.      It can be seen from the fig that, the energy gap of LiF is about
> 16 eV (the experimental one is 14 eV), but the LDA calculations usually
> underestimate the gap.
>
> Any comment is appreciated, and thank you in advance.
> Sincerely
>
> Fei Mao
> University of South China, China
>
>
>
>
>
> 在2015-08-04,Mayuri Vaghela <[email protected]
> <http://stu.mail.bnu.edu.cn/jy3/editor/java_script:_e(%7B%7D,%27cvml%27,%[email protected]%27);>>
> 写道:
>
> -----原始邮件-----
> *发件人:* Mayuri Vaghela <[email protected]
> <http://stu.mail.bnu.edu.cn/jy3/editor/java_script:_e(%7B%7D,%27cvml%27,%[email protected]%27);>
> >
> *发送时间:* 2015年8月4日 星期二
> *收件人:* [email protected]
> <http://stu.mail.bnu.edu.cn/jy3/editor/java_script:_e(%7B%7D,%27cvml%27,%[email protected]%27);>
> *主题:* Re: [SIESTA-L] The energy band gap of LiF
>
> first check systemlabel.EIG file,
> you will get fermi energy from that file.
> now draw clear line using set axis command of gnuplot at appropriate
> energy value
> from that you can distinguish band gap between CB &VB...
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Altaf Ur Rahman <[email protected]
> <http://stu.mail.bnu.edu.cn/jy3/editor/java_script:_e(%7B%7D,%27cvml%27,%[email protected]%27);>
> > wrote:
>
> Dear when you calculate the band structure by using like gnuplot you must
> see the fermi energy from your band data file/EIG file and then when you
> plot the you can write in the gnuplot this sentence
> *set zero axis 3*
> gnuplot> plot './Band.data' u ($1)+3.23:2 w l
>
> here in above case your fermi energy is 3.23
>  and you can see the fermi line will appear that clearly distiguish the
> conduction and valance band
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:04 PM, 毛飞 <[email protected]
> <http://stu.mail.bnu.edu.cn/jy3/editor/java_script:_e(%7B%7D,%27cvml%27,%[email protected]%27);>
> > wrote:
>
> Dear siesta developers and users
>
> I am a newbie in band structure calculation. I calculate the band
> structure of LiF, and a 2*2*2 supercell of 64 atoms is selected. In this
> calculation, the local density approximation (LDA) is adopted for the
> exchange-correlation functional term, the band structure is obtained along
> the high symmetric line Γ->X->W->Γ, only gamma point is used for
> Brillouin zone sampling, more details can be found in the input file which
> is attached below.
>
> I can not understand the results of the E(k) (two figs are also attached),
> it seems there are two band gaps formed in the calculation (the Fermi
> energy is shifted to 0 eV), I want to know which one (gap 1 or gap 2) is
> the band gap in my calculation, and how does another gap come from?
>
> Is there anything wrong in the input file?
>
> Please help me, any suggestion or comment is appreciated.
> Sincerely
>
> Fei Mao
> University of South China, China
>
> ############################ Input file for the LiF
> ############################
> SystemName          bulk.LiF
> SystemLabel         bulk_LiF
>
> NumberOfAtoms       8
> NumberOfSpecies     2
>
> %block ChemicalSpeciesLabel
>  1    3    Li
>  2    9    F
> %endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel
>
> # basis
> PAO.BasisSize       DZP
> PAO.EnergyShift     200 meV
>
> LatticeConstant    4.04 Ang      # Lattice constant alat
> %block LatticeVectors               # Lattice vectors, in units of
> latticeconstant
>  2.0      0.0       0.0
>  0.0      2.0       0.0
>  0.0      0.0       2.0
> %endblock LatticeVectors
>
>
> %block SuperCell
>  2 0 0   0.0
>  0 2 0   0.0
>  0 0 2   0.0
> %endblock SuperCell
>
>
> %block kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack
>  1 0 0   0.0
>  0 1 0   0.0
>  0 0 1   0.0
> %endblock kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack
>
>
> BandLinesScale  ReciprocalLatticeVectors
> %block BandLines
> 1     0.0   0.0   0.0     # Gamma-point
> 20    0.5   0.0   0.5     # X-point
> 30    0.5   0.25  0.75    # W-point
> 30    0.0   0.0   0.0     # Gamma-point
> %endblock BandLines
>
>
> %block  ProjectedDensityOfStates
>  -20 10 0.1  300    eV
> %endblock ProjectedDensityOfStates
>
> MeshCutoff          300.0 Ry
>
> # SCF options
> MaxSCFIterations      100           # Maximum number of SCF iter
> DM.NumberPulay         3            # One Pulay every 3 iter
> DM.MixingWeight       0.35         # New DM amount for next SCF cycle
> DM.Tolerance          5.d-4         # Tolerance in maximum difference
>
> SolutionMethod        diagon        # OrderN or Diagon
> OccupationFunction    FD
> ElectronicTemperature  25 meV       # Temp. for Fermi smearing
>
> # exchange-correlation functional
> XC.functional LDA
> XC.authors CA
>
> # structural infomation
> AtomCoorFormatOut Ang
>
> # output information
> WriteCoorXmol T
> WriteMDXmol T
> WriteForces T
>
> WriteKpoints            .true.
> WriteEigenvalues        .true.
> WriteKbands             .true.
> WriteBands              .true.
> WriteMullikenPop        1
>
> # options for MD
> MD.MaxForceTol          0.01 eV/Ang
> MD.TypeOfRun CG
> MD.NumCGSteps 400
> MD.Broyden.History.Steps 6
> MD.Broyden.Initial.Inverse.Jacobian 1.0
>
> # options for continue
> # MD.UseSaveCG T                        # neccessary!
> # MD.UseSaveXV T                        # neccessary!
> # DM.UseSaveDM          true            # to use continuae..ion files
>
>
> AtomicCoordinatesFormat Ang
> %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies
>   -5.963747      -2.022693      -2.026392               1
>   -6.051639      -5.949852      -2.013945               2
>   -2.147364      -2.056847      -2.009531               2
>   -2.039835      -5.953723      -2.024337               1
>   -6.085698      -1.925561       2.008577               2
>   -5.941415      -5.910826       2.052174               1
>   -2.040599      -2.032355       2.028040               1
>   -2.129653      -6.096888       2.008118               2
> %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies
>
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>
> --
> Zhen Zhu,
> Postdoctoral Researcher
> Materials Department
> University of California
> Santa Barbara, CA 93106-5050 U.S.A.
> Tel:  +1-517-488-2298
> Email: [email protected]
>           [email protected]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Zhen Zhu,
Postdoctoral Researcher
Materials Department
University of California
Santa Barbara, CA 93106-5050 U.S.A.
Tel:  +1-517-488-2298
Email: [email protected]
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