The specification is done in a unit less box.
I don't know what else to say... Others, feel free to chip in.


On Sun, 27 Aug 2023, 22:00 肖威, <xiaowei951...@163.com> wrote:

> Dear Nick Papior,
>
> Please give me some more guidance on the direction of the plane's normal
> vector. (Gate, Infinite plane)
>
> Many thanks.
> Wei
> 肖威
> xiaowei951...@163.com
>
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> From Nick Papior<nickpap...@gmail.com> <nickpap...@gmail.com>
> Date 8/27/2023 04:00
> To siesta-l<siesta-l@uam.es> <siesta-l@uam.es>
> Subject Re: [SIESTA-L] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Question about Gate
> (Infinite plane) in SIESTA
> Your understanding is wrong, it is not inserted into the box before
> determining the direction.
>
> It is a direction first.
>
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023, 22:00 肖威, <xiaowei951...@163.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Nick Papior,
>>
>> Here is an example of the use of (Infinite plane) in the SIESTA 4.1.5
>> manual (Page 105) :
>> %block Geometry.Hartree
>> plane 1. eV                  # The lifting potential on the geometry
>> delta
>> 1.0   1.0   1.0   Ang      # An intersection point, in the plane
>> 1.0   0.5   0.2                # The normal vector to the plane
>> %endblock Geometry.Hartree
>>
>> As shown in the example above, [(1.0   1.0   1.0 ) Ang] is the starting
>> point of the normal vector and its unit is Ang. Assuming 1.0 Bohr = 0.5
>> Angstrom (Ang), then the end point of the normal vector (1.0  0.5  0.2)
>> in Ang and Bohr gives different point positions *M* and *N*,
>> respectively, and ultimately leads to different normal vector directions
>> *n*1 and *n*2 (see diagram below, same as the attachment). So I can't
>> determine the spatial position of the (Infinite plane).
>>
>> Please kindly point out if my understanding is wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>> Wei
>>
>>
>>
>> 肖威
>> xiaowei951...@163.com
>>
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>> From Nick Papior<nickpap...@gmail.com> <nickpap...@gmail.com>
>> Date 8/25/2023 04:00
>> To siesta-l<siesta-l@uam.es> <siesta-l@uam.es>
>> Subject [SIESTA-L] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Question about Gate
>> (Infinite plane) in SIESTA
>> Hi,
>> I understand that you want to know if the normal vector is in ang or
>> Bohr.
>>
>> But, a normal vector is, by definition, unit less. It is a direction,
>> nothing more.
>> Once siesta has read in the vector, it will normalise it to unit length.
>>
>> On Wed, 23 Aug 2023, 22:00 肖威, <xiaowei951...@163.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Nick Papior,
>>>
>>> Take the blue font below for example:
>>> The normal vector consists of two points, pointing from (1.0   1.0
>>> 1.0) to (1.0   0.5   0.2). What I want to ask is whether the unit of  (1.0
>>>   0.5   0.2) is Ang.
>>>
>>> Here is an example of the use of (Infinite plane) in the SIESTA 4.1.5
>>> manual (Page 101):
>>> %block Geometry.Hartree
>>> plane 1. eV                  # The lifting potential on the geometry
>>> delta
>>> 1.0   1.0   1.0   Ang      # An intersection point, in the plane
>>> 1.0   0.5   0.2                # The normal vector to the plane
>>> %endblock Geometry.Hartree
>>>
>>> Thank you very much!
>>> Wei
>>>
>>>
>>> 肖威
>>> xiaowei951...@163.com
>>>
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>>> From Nick Papior<nickpap...@gmail.com> <nickpap...@gmail.com>
>>> Date 8/10/2023 04:00
>>> To <siesta-l@uam.es> <siesta-l@uam.es>
>>> Subject [SIESTA-L] ***SPAM*** Re: Question about Gate (Infinite plane)
>>> in SIESTA
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> 1. Yes, a plane is defined by a point in the plane, and a normal vector,
>>> nothing else is needed.
>>> 2. A normal vector needs no units, it is a vector describing direction,
>>> not distance. Hence no unit is required.
>>> 3. Please use 4.1.5 (check the gitlab hosting site for the latest
>>> release), do not use 4.1-b4.
>>>
>>> Den tirs. 8. aug. 2023 kl. 22.00 skrev 肖威 <xiaowei951...@163.com>:
>>>
>>>> Dear SIESTA developers and users,
>>>>
>>>> Here is an example of the use of (Infinite plane) in the SIESTA 4.1-b4
>>>> manual (Page 101):
>>>>
>>>> %block Geometry.Hartree
>>>> plane 1. eV                  # The lifting potential on the geometry
>>>> delta
>>>> 1.0   1.0   1.0   Ang      # An intersection point, in the plane
>>>> 1.0   0.5   0.2                # The normal vector to the plane
>>>> %endblock Geometry.Hartree
>>>>
>>>> I have two questions about the above example:
>>>> 1, Does the normal vector start at (1.0   1.0   1.0) and end at (1.0
>>>> 0.5   0.2) ?
>>>> 2, The unit of coordinate (1.0   0.5   0.2) is not marked, is it Ang ?
>>>>
>>>> I'm really looking forward to some help.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much!
>>>>
>>>> Wei
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 肖威
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>>>>
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