Hello Roland,

I believe this paper by I. G. Shutteworth contains valuable information
that can address most of your questions:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022369715001663__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!QWSMgD_jSmHzoxT8j_dmZrR27JUoQhVhq3G91IQB1d1oCiP3OqQKMUgc4Tjf1POpfiwSHM5tn4y4w_1w6mVa6w$
 

All the best,

F. G.

On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 2:00 PM I. Camps <[email protected]> wrote:

> Besides prof. Postnikov advices, if you are trying to compare your results
> with previous calculations, you need to check:
>
> - the slab structure (check the plane/direction for the slab)
> - the structure optimization and/or constraints (there are different ways
> to use and define the slab behavior)
> - the type of pseudopotentials
> - the size of the basis set
> - the convergence thresholds
> - the cut-off values
> - the initial position of the B atom
> - parameters that can affect the calculated energy values (electronic
> temperature, mixer method/weight/etc.)
>
> []'s,
> Camps
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2026 at 6:00 PM Andrei Postnikov <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Roland,
>> some suggestions:
>> 1. Check the structure. It is difficult to judge from your input file;
>> make a visualisation from working XV in order to see that everything is
>> correct.
>> From my experience, surprises due to structure input errors are not
>> uncommon.
>> 2. The 3x3 lateral cell size seems rather small to simulate adsorption
>> of an isolated atom. In principle this might be a factor
>> responsible for a difference from the expected value.
>> Ideally, a convergence with respect to supercell size has to be tested.
>> 3. As a reference energy for desorbed case, move the boron atom away from
>> the surface
>> within the same cell, retaining the Cu atoms at their positions. This
>> will minimize
>> systematic errors. Check the BSSE later on.
>> 4. The relaxation at the surface
>> with and without the boron atom adsorbed might be different. Again,
>> the lateral size might be too small for correctly incorporating the
>> relaxation
>> around the adsorbed atom. (This is just a guess; I don't know the system).
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Andrei
>>
>>
>> to get the adsorption energy, the boron energy from boron crystal is not
>> a good reference. I'd suggest
>>
>>
>> ----- Le 14 Jan 26, à 9:59, Roland Coratger [email protected] a
>> écrit :
>>
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I am trying, as a training exercise, to recover the adsorption energy of
>> > a boron atom on a Cu(111) slab, which according to the literature should
>> > be around -2 eV. The energy is given by: E(ads) = E(slab+B) - E(slab) -
>> > E(B). For E(B), if I use a B atom in the slab’s box, the energy is very
>> > negative and unrealistic (around -4 eV). If I use the energy of a B atom
>> > from the 3D boron crystal, the energy becomes positive (around +2 eV),
>> > so there is no adsorption. Below you will find my input file for the
>> > slab+B system. I use the same parameters for the other two energies. The
>> > BSSE correction (a few tenths of an eV) does not change the observed
>> > trend. Am I making a mistake somewhere and/or do you have any
>> > suggestions to help me recover the correct value?
>> >
>> > Thank you in advance for you help.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Roland.
>> >
>> > _______________________________________
>> > SystemName             CuB test
>> > SystemLabel            cu_b
>> > NumberOfAtoms          46
>> > NumberOfSpecies        2
>> >
>> > XC.functional          GGA
>> > XC.authors             PBE
>> >
>> > MaxSCFIterations       200
>> >
>> > %block ChemicalSpeciesLabel
>> >
>> > 1  29 Cu        # Species index, atomic number, species label
>> > 2  5  B         # Species index, atomic number, species label
>> >
>> > %endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel
>> >
>> > PAO.FixSplitTable       T
>> > PAO.EnergyShift         20 meV
>> > PAO.SplitNorm           0.15
>> > MeshCutoff              300.000000 Ry
>> > ElectronicTemperature   50.000000 K
>> >
>> > #
>> > MD.TypeOfRun            CG            # Broyden also possible
>> > MD.NumCGsteps           200
>> >
>> > #
>> > SolutionMethod diagon
>> > SCF.DM.Converge         true            # Converge SCF step wrt density
>> > matrix (default: 1e-4)
>> > SCF.H.Converge          true
>> > DM.NumberPulay          3
>> > DM.History.Depth        3
>> >
>> > #SCF Mixer -> Density pour les systèmes difficiles
>> >
>> > SCF.Mix                 Hamiltonian
>> >
>> > # Mixer 0.5 reduit le nombre de pas pour des systèmes faciles
>> > # Mixer 0.001 augmente le nombre de pas pour des systèmes difficiles
>> >
>> > SCF.Mixer.Weight       0.05
>> > SCF.Mixer.History      6
>> > SCF.Mixer.Method       Pulay
>> > MaxSCFIterations       100
>> >
>> > SCF.DM.Tolerance       5.0E-5 eV
>> > SCF.H.Tolerance        0.0005 eV
>> >
>> >
>> > MD.MaxStressTol        0.0025 eV/Ang**3
>> >
>> > # Nouvelle ligne pour la force entre atomes
>> >
>> > MD.MaxForceTol         0.01 eV/Ang
>> >
>> >
>> > # Use old data to save time
>> > MD.UseSaveXV
>> > MD.UseSaveDM
>> >
>> > # Save atomic coordinates at each step
>> > WriteCoorStep         .true.
>> > WriteMDHistory        .true.
>> >
>> >
>> > PAO.BasisType         split
>> > PAO.BasisSize         DZP
>> >
>> > LatticeConstant         1.0000 Ang
>> >
>> > %block LatticeVectors
>> >    7.65797    0.00000   0.00000
>> >    3.82898    6.63199   0.00000
>> >    0.00000    0.00000  24.00000
>> > %endblock LatticeVectors
>> >
>> > AtomicCoordinatesFormat Ang
>> >
>> > %block AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies
>> >
>> >     3.829        0.7369         1.80        2      # Atome de B en site
>> cfc
>> >
>> >     0.0        0.0         0.0        1
>> >     1.2763        2.2107         0.0        1
>> >     2.5527        4.4213         0.0        1
>> >     2.5527        0.0         0.0        1
>> >     3.829        2.2107         0.0        1
>> >     5.1053        4.4213         0.0        1
>> >     5.1053        0.0         0.0        1
>> >     6.3816        2.2107         0.0        1
>> >     7.658        4.4213         0.0        1
>> >
>> >     0.0        1.4738        -2.0842        1
>> >     1.2763        3.6844        -2.0842        1
>> >     2.5527        5.8951        -2.0842        1
>> >     2.5527        1.4738        -2.0842        1
>> >     3.829        3.6844        -2.0842        1
>> >     5.1053        5.8951        -2.0842        1
>> >     5.1053        1.4738        -2.0842        1
>> >     6.3816        3.6844        -2.0842        1
>> >     7.658        5.8951        -2.0842        1
>> >
>> >     1.2763        0.7369        -4.1685        1
>> >     2.5527        2.9476        -4.1685        1
>> >     3.829        5.1582        -4.1685        1
>> >     3.829        0.7369        -4.1685        1
>> >     5.1053        2.9476        -4.1685        1
>> >     6.3816        5.1582        -4.1685        1
>> >     6.3816        0.7369        -4.1685        1
>> >     7.658        2.9476        -4.1685        1
>> >     8.9343        5.1582        -4.1685        1
>> >
>> >     0.0        0.0        -6.2527        1
>> >     1.2763        2.2107        -6.2527        1
>> >     2.5527        4.4213        -6.2527        1
>> >     2.5527        0.0        -6.2527        1
>> >     3.829        2.2107        -6.2527        1
>> >     5.1053        4.4213        -6.2527        1
>> >     5.1053        0.0        -6.2527        1
>> >     6.3816        2.2107        -6.2527        1
>> >     7.658        4.4213        -6.2527        1
>> >
>> >     0.0        1.4738        -8.3369        1
>> >     1.2763        3.6844        -8.3369        1
>> >     2.5527        5.8951        -8.3369        1
>> >     2.5527        1.4738        -8.3369        1
>> >     3.829        3.6844        -8.3369        1
>> >     5.1053        5.8951        -8.3369        1
>> >     5.1053        1.4738        -8.3369        1
>> >     6.3816        3.6844        -8.3369        1
>> >     7.658        5.8951        -8.3369        1
>> >
>> > %endblock AtomicCoordinatesAndAtomicSpecies
>> >
>> > %block kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack
>> >   12     0    0   0.
>> >    0    12    0   0.
>> >    0     0    1   0.
>> > %endblock kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack
>> >
>> > SaveTotalPotential           T
>> > SaveTotalCharge                 T
>> > SaveElectrostaticPotential   T
>>
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