Skeeve, First of all, there's probably going to be a lot of this: In a previous life, I obtained on behalf of my then employer three adjacent "Class C" (and no, they weren't "/24"s in those days!) address blocks. And we later inherited at least two more non-adjacent blocks from mergers with other companies. I know that only about three or four individual IP addresses of all these allocations are visible on the Internet, and that the organisation quickly moved to RFC1918 private addresses internally, so the legacy blocks are all just about completely unused. Suddenly, their legacy space may be worth actual money. This company is not and never has been an APNIC member. I'm sure there are lots of other stories like mine.
Secondly, I believe that pragmatism ought to, in this matter, rule over principle: So, we should not say that the vendor must become an APNIC member to reap the benefit of their 'found money', because by and large they won't bother, thus pushing the transfers underground. I would say that the buyer / first intermediary must register the 'new' block of IP addresses with (in this case) APNIC, so that it moves out of 'legacy' space into 'regular' address space, then becomes subject to the existing regulatory framework. I may be banging a familiar drum here, but I don't think there should be any requirement to demonstrate 'need' for the purchaser to be allowed to register a legacy block: in my view the readiness to pony up some cash demonstrates sufficient 'need'. The difficult practical / legal issue may be: how does the vendor demonstrate that a particular block of legacy space is in fact theirs to sell, particularly if it's never been visible on the Internet? Regards Mike Note: The views expressed are my personal opinion and may not represent the position (if any) of my employer From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014 11:08 a.m. To: [email protected]; [email protected] SIG List Subject: [sig-policy] Policy Regarding Transfers of Legacy Space Hi All, I've been contacted by a holder of some small (not relevant) legacy space who was inquiring about selling it. But, they are not an APNIC member (or a Non-Member). Referring to: http://www.apnic.net/publications/media-library/documents/membership/non-member-fees#Historical under 1.4, it talks about receiving transfers, but not making transfers. Any thoughts? ...Skeeve Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; www.eintellegonetworks.com<http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks<http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve<http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> twitter.com/theispguy<http://twitter.com/theispguy> ; blog: www.theispguy.com<http://www.theispguy.com/> [http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png] The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately.
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