How do you see needs basis going away in this wording?

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On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote:

> +1… I’m with Dean… Still opposed.
>
> Let’s keep needs basis in place, please. I’m all for removing the
> requirement to multihome, but not the requirement to actually need the
> addresses for an operational network.
>
> Owen
>
> On Mar 4, 2015, at 16:09 , Dean Pemberton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Just to clarify.
>
> This still looks to remove needs based allocation and shift that to an
> "ability to advertise".
>
> Am I missing something here?
>
> On Thursday, 5 March 2015, Masato Yamanishi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear SIG members
>>
>> A new version of the proposal “prop-113: Modification in the IPv4
>> eligibility criteria" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
>>
>> Information about earlier versions is available from:
>>
>> http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-113
>>
>> You are encouraged to express your views on the proposal:
>>
>>  - Do you support or oppose the proposal?
>>  - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
>>  - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
>>
>> Please find the text of the proposal below.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Masato
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> prop-113-v002: Modification in the IPv4 eligibility criteria
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Proposer:       Aftab Siddiqui
>>                       [email protected]
>>
>>                       Skeeve Stevens
>>                       [email protected]
>>
>>
>> 1. Problem statement
>> -----------------------------
>>
>>     The current APNIC IPv4 delegation policy defines multiple
>>     eligibility criteria and applicants must meet one criteria to be
>>     eligible to receive IPv4 resources. One of the criteria dictates
>>     that “an organization is eligible if it is currently multi-homed
>>     with provider-based addresses, or demonstrates a plan to multi-home
>>     within one month” (section 3.3).
>>
>>     The policy seems to imply that multi-homing is mandatory even if
>>     there is no use case for the applicant to be multi-homed or even
>>     when there is only one upstream provider available, this has created
>>     much confusion in interpreting this policy.
>>
>>     As a result organizations have either tempted to provide incorrect
>>     or fabricated multi-homing information to get the IPv4 resources or
>>     barred themselves from applying.
>>
>>
>> 2. Objective of policy change
>> --------------------------------------
>>
>>     In order to make the policy guidelines simpler we are proposing to
>>     modify the text of section 3.3.
>>
>>
>> 3. Situation in other regions
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> ARIN:
>>     There is no multi-homing requirement
>>
>> RIPE:
>>     There is no multi-homing requirement.
>>
>> LACNIC:
>>     Applicant can either have multi-homing requirement or interconnect.
>>
>> AFRINIC:
>>     There is no multi-homing requirement.
>>
>>
>> 4. Proposed policy solution
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>     Section 3.3: Criteria for small delegations
>>
>>     An organization is eligible if:
>>
>>     - it is currently multi-homed
>>
>>     OR,
>>
>>     - currently utilising provider (ISP) assignment of at least a /24,
>>
>>     AND
>>
>>     - intends to be multi-homed
>>
>>     OR,
>>
>>     - intends to be multi-homed
>>
>>     AND
>>
>>     - advertise the prefixes within 6 months
>>
>>
>>
>> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages
>> ------------------------------------------
>>
>> Advantages:
>>
>>     Simplifies the process of applying for IPv4 address space for small
>>     delegations and delays the immediate requirement for multi-homing as
>>     determined to be appropriate within the timeframe as detailed in
>>     Section 3.3.
>>
>> Disadvantages:
>>
>>     There is no known disadvantage of this proposal.
>>
>>
>> 6. Impact on resource holders
>> -----------------------------------------
>>
>>     No impact on existing resource holders.
>>
>>
>
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