I support prop-1118.
Best Regards, Ernest Tse On Thu, 10/08/2017 03.17, Mike Burns <[email protected]> wrote: > I support prop-118, but note that contrary to the proposal text, Lacnic has > allowed intra-regional transfers since March 14, 2016. > > Regards, > Mike Burns > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [[email protected]] On Behalf Of chku > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:14 AM > To: sig-policy <[email protected]> > Subject: [sig-policy] [Sig-policy] prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region, > to be dis cussed at APNIC 44 Policy SIG > > Dear SIG members > > The proposal "prop-118: No need policy in APNIC region" was discussed at > APNIC 43 Policy SIG, but did not reach consensus. > > It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 44 which will be > held in Taichung, Taiwan on Wednesday and Thursday, 14 & 15 September 2017. > > Information about the proposal is available from: > > > https://u5763498.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=xF2otKml8FKK0iLyO1O8huUrPPtUbHhO65cb-2BIfOx1yQjk8JFqaVBIhGSNZmoA60U12-2BFRY8sOsUAtEqjBQpgg-3D-3D_UAkvnIPiyHBK93gJxXZbN-2FFqWUVGpvc0TKjBg0wTWpUcdMbqpjzCZWqOZ54xVfRdu-2BDKIREJQHfNvzlKUnHEnbcpXiAz1Z78qVcyYnRjp-2BK9LZDemT-2BQErpYrTsmBEdyqearem30WuE3uCT4GWbnc4n20dxae-2Fb1wO-2FxpaTmv8py3W4eoQ8KjXxUGBar-2B-2B-2FFpMVUycudEnJ22EEpW3ADxQ-3D-3D > > You are encouraged to express your views on the proposal: > > - Do you support or oppose the proposal? > - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal? > - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear? > - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective? > > Please find the text of the proposal below. > > Kind Regards, > > Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng > APNIC Policy SIG Chairs > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > prop-118-v001: No need policy in APNIC region > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Proposer: David Hilario > [email protected] > > > 1. Problem statement > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Whenever a transfer of IPv4 is taking place within the APNIC region, the > recipient needs to demonstrate the "need" for the IPv4 space they intend to > transfer. > > Companies transferring IPv4 space to their pool do this in ordcer to enable > further growth in their network, since the space is not coming from the free > public pool, regular policies that are intended to protect the limited pool > of IPv4 space can be removed in transfers. > > > 2. Objective of policy change > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Simplify transfer of IPv4 space between resource holders. > Ease some administration on APNIC staff. > > > 3. Situation in other regions > ------------------------------------------------------- > > RIPE region has an all around no need policy in IPv4, even for first > allocation, transfers do not require the recipient to demonstrate their > intended use of the resources . > > ARIN, need base for both transfers and resources issued by ARIN. > > AFRINIC, need based policy on transfers (not active yet) and resource > request from AFRINIC based on needs. > > LACNIC, no transfers, need based request. > > Out of all these RIR, only ARIN and RIPE NCC have inter-RIR transfer > policies, ARIN has made clear in the past that the "no need" policy from > the RIPE region would break inter-RIR transfers from ARIN to RIPE region. > > > 4. Proposed policy solution > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Simply copy the RIPE policy to solve the ARIN transfer incompatibility: > > - APNIC shall accept all transfers of Internet number resources to its > service region, provided that they comply with the policies relating > to transfers within its service region. > > - For transfers from RIR regions that require the receiving region to > have needs-based policies, recipients must provide a plan to the > APNIC for the use of at least 50% of the transferred resources within > 5 years. > > source: > > https://u5763498.ct.sendgrid.net/wf/click?upn=16bEysF9x2jUX1XY2ZMKUrALMsHil-2BpVmNTNd6yDOuFusAIW7wV7s3bVF4S4QfQhmE-2FurmywiubVNS9Y1KHJMw-3D-3D_UAkvnIPiyHBK93gJxXZbN-2FFqWUVGpvc0TKjBg0wTWpUcdMbqpjzCZWqOZ54xVfRdHe-2FGWYzZflHk0NQ6fbIU32C4y0tJXQIYB2cnDtp6BnA67qinJnWeNiKf9St7-2Fz3g1IEkByuqbqnrupxsTXhGOFfsQSRb1KHWLJZAw5rNYuS5YXvrzrpKzi77zdzSHw6Dk4rLR4GZBseTy9iNgkuPFg-3D-3D > > > 5. Advantages / Disadvantages > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Advantages: > > - Harmonisation with RIPE region. > - Makes transfer simpler and smoother within APNIC and between APNIC > and RIPE. > - maintains a compatibility with ARIN. > - Removes the uncertainty that a transfer may be rejected based on > potentially badly documented needs. > - Lowers the overall administrative burden on APNIC staff. > > Disadvantages: > > none. > > > 6. Impact on resource holders > ------------------------------------------------------- > None > > > 7. 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