Good point. Who propose this policy? And rational is?

Kuo Wu

Satoru Tsurumaki <[email protected]>於 2017年8月17日 週四,18:48寫道:

> I oppose this proposal.
>
> I would like to know who and why need the "temporary" address.
> I could not imagine the use case of this proposal except for the
> spammer who get the temporary address which set very short period,
> sent huge number of SPAM, return the address and run away.
> After that, the source organization might be  "laundering" the address
> from SPAM DB, then lease this address to another spammers.
>
> I think we should oppose the proposal which might support the spammer.
>
> regards,
>
> Satoru Tsurumaki
>
>
>
> 2017-08-09 15:16 GMT+09:00 chku <[email protected]>:
> > Dear SIG members
> >
> > The proposal "prop-119: Temporary transfers" was sent to the Policy SIG
> > Mailing list in May 2017.
> >
> > It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 44 which will
> > be held in Taichung, Taiwan on Wednesday and Thursday, 14 & 15 September
> > 2017.
> >
> > Information about the proposal is available from:
> >
> >     http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-119
> >
> > You are encouraged to express your views on the proposal:
> >
> >  - Do you support or oppose the proposal?
> >  - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
> >  - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
> >  - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
> >
> > Please find the text of the proposal below.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Sumon, Ching-Heng, Bertrand
> > APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > prop-119-v001: Temporary transfers
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Proposer:       David Hilario
> >                 [email protected]
> >
> > 1. Problem statement
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > It is currently not possible for an organisation to receive a temporary
> > transfer under the current policy framework. Some organisations do not
> > want to have address space registered as assignments or sub-allocations,
> > but would rather have the address space registered as "ALLOCATED PA".
> >
> >
> > 2. Objective of policy change
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Create a possibility for temporary transfers that would allow
> > organisations to have resources directly registered under them while
> > they are the custodians of these resources on the Internet. While also
> > guaranteeing that the offering party will under the APNIC policy be able
> > to recover the resources once the “lease” time has expired unless
> > specifically renewed.
> >
> >
> > 3. Situation in other regions
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > RIPE region has a concept of temporary transfers in their policies. This
> > concept is not found in the other RIRs for the moment.
> >
> >
> > 4. Proposed policy solution
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Adding to section "8.2.1. Conditions on the space to be transferred" the
> > following paragraphs: It must be specified if the transfer is a
> > permanent or temporary transfer.
> >
> > A temporary transfer must have an end date, upon the end date the
> > resources will be transferred back to the same origin account or its
> > successor in the event of merger and acquisitions, unless the transfer
> > is specifically prolonged and confirmed by both parties.
> >
> > If the source account does no longer exist and has no successor, the
> > space will then be returned to the origin RIR for the space. Temporary
> > transfers cannot be further transferred.
> >
> >
> > 5. Advantages / Disadvantages
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Advantages:
> > Gives a greater flexibility in how LIRs manage and distribute their free
> > pool. Enables organisation to receive address space in the way they
> > intend.
> >
> > Disadvantages:
> > These transfers would be treated and appear as regular transfers, only
> > APNIC the offering and receiving party will be aware of their temporary
> > nature.
> >
> > Organisations receiving such space, if they further assign it, must make
> > be ready to renumber/revoke space from their customers and services then
> > the lease expires, this is no different than a sub-allocation and
> > implies the same limitations.
> >
> >
> > 6. Impact on resource holders
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > none
> >
> >
> > 7. References
> > -------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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