Hi Alex,
Here is the date you requested.
> > 1、How many invalid Whois contact reports received by
> APNIC in 2017？ Or per month in average in 2017？
In 2017, we received a total of 3,915 reports of invalid contacts in
whois database. These reports included:
- Multiple reports for the same invalid whois contact
- Reports for invalid contacts associated with customer assignments
- Reports for unresponsive contacts (Email does not bounce but whois
contact does not respond)
- Network abuse activities reported incorrectly via invalid contact
report form
> > 2、How many delegations from the 103/8 ?
To date, we have made 13884 delegations from the 103/8 pool.
> > 3、How many m&a cases from 103/8 are adopted by apnic
> before the prop-116, and how many be prohibited after the policy?
The number of M&A transfers from 103/8 address block between 15 April
2011 to 14 Sep 2017 is 257.
Since the implementation of prop 116, APNIC has rejected 18 M&A transfer
requests as they did not meet the policy criteria.
> > 4、How many ranges from 103/8 have the transfer
> requirement but due to the prop-116, which are in the state of waiting?
We don't have this number as we don’t know how many of them wish to
transfer.
Regards
Sunny
APNIC Secretariat
On 19/02/2018 11:27 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Hello Sig policy chairs,
> Can I ask you some questions about :
>
> 1、How many invalid Whois contact reports received by
APNIC in 2017？ Or per month in average in 2017？
> 2、How many delegations from the 103/8 ?
> 3、How many m&a cases from 103/8 are adopted by apnic
before the prop-116, and how many be prohibited after the policy?
> 4、How many ranges from 103/8 have the transfer
requirement but due to the prop-116, which are in the state of waiting ?
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1. Re: prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy
[SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED] (Guangliang Pan)
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 08:29:45 +0000
From: Guangliang Pan <[email protected]>
To: Owen DeLong <[email protected]>
Cc: mailman_SIG-policy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer
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Hello Owen,
There is 1.86% of the delegations from 103/8 block have been
transferred by M&A. Out of that, only 5 ranges transferred more than
once.
There are 152 members acquired 103/8 ranges via M&A transfers. It is
1% of the total membership (includes members under NIRs). Out of
that, 123 members received one range, 16 members received two ranges
and 13 members received more two ranges.
Kind regards,
Guangliang
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From: Owen DeLong [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2018 3:00 AM
To: Skeeve Stevens <[email protected]>
Cc: Guangliang Pan <[email protected]>; mailman_SIG-policy
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer
policy [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]
I would argue that 257 probably represents a significant fraction of
the distributed portion of 103/8.
I would be interested if staff can answer what percentage of the
issued 103/8 resources have been subject
to one or more M&A transfers since issuance. I?d be especially
interested in the number instances where
the same entity has ?acquired? more than entity that holds 103/8
block(s).
I am concerned that there could be an emerging pattern of:
1. Stand up shell entity
2. Subscribe shell entity to APNIC and
obtain 103/8 block.
3. Merge shell entity into parent entity
and M&A transfer block into parent?s holdings.
4. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Owen
On Jan 31, 2018, at 08:47 , Skeeve Stevens
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
This number is so small in the scheme of things it should NOT have
been enshrined in policy.
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On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Guangliang Pan
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Aftab,
The number of M&A transfers involved 103/8 address block from 15
April 2011 to 14 Sep 2017 is 257.
Kind regards,
Guangliang
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From: Aftab Siddiqui
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Monday, 29 January 2018 8:49 PM
To: Guangliang Pan <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Sanjeev Gupta <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>;
mailman_SIG-policy <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer
policy [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]
Hi Guangliang,
How many M&A were processed for 103/8 address block from 15 April
2011 to 14 Sep 2017.
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 at 06:43 Guangliang Pan
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Sanjeev,
The number of delegations from 103/8 pool since 29 Jan 2013 (Five
years count back from today) to 14 Sep 2017 is 10868. These are the
delegations are not allowed to transfer as of today according to
prop-116-v006.
Kind regards,
Guangliang
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On Behalf Of Sanjeev Gupta
Sent: Monday, 29 January 2018 3:34 PM
To: Henderson Mike, Mr
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: mailman_SIG-policy
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer
policy [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]
Hi,
I see this as more of a "do not make policy retroactively". People
who "bought" an "asset" in good faith should not be told it is worth
different now.
I am amenable to changing the cut-off date in Prop-123 to the date
it was sent to the Policy SIG, as that might have given warning to
people the rules were changing.
APNIC Secretariat, how many transfers will be affected by Prop-123?
--
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On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 4:16 AM, Henderson Mike, Mr
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Not supported
The proposal should in my opinion be amended to read:
___________________________
Disadvantages:
None Completely negates the purpose of prop-116-v006: Prohibit to
transfer IPv4 addresses in
the final /8 block.
___________________________
Regards
Mike
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On Behalf Of Bertrand Cherrier
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2018 4:28 p.m.
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [sig-policy] prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy
Dear SIG members,
The proposal "prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy" has
been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 45 in
Kathmandu, Nepal on Tuesday, 27 February 2018.
We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
before the meeting.
The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
express your views on the proposal:
- Do you support or oppose this proposal?
- Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
tell the community about your situation.
- Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
- Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
- What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
effective?
Information about this proposal is available at:
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-123
Regards
Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/prop-123-v001.txt
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prop-123-v001: Modify 103/8 IPv4 transfer policy
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Proposer: Alex Yang
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
1. Problem statement
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Policy Proposal prop-116-v006: Prohibit to transfer IPv4 addresses in
the final /8 block reached consensus at the APNIC 44 AMM on 14 Sep
2017. Since that APNIC has stopped all the IPv4 transfers from 103/8
block if the delegation date is less than 5 years.
However, some of the 103/8 ranges were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.
Those resources should not be subjected to 5 years restriction. The
community was not aware of the restriction when they received those
resources, some of the resources have been transferred or planning to
transfer. If APNIC is not allow those transfers to be registered,
there will be underground transfers. This will cause incorrect APNIC
Whois data.
2. Objective of policy change
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To keep the APNIC Whois data correct.
3. Situation in other regions
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No such situation in other regions.
4. Proposed policy solution
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?Prohibit transfer IPv4 addresses under final /8 address block (103/8)
which have not passed five years after its allocation/assignment?
should only apply to those ranges were delegated from APNIC since 14
Sep 2017.
5. Advantages / Disadvantages
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Advantages:
- Allow APNIC to register those 103/8 transfers to keep the APNIC
Whois data correct.
Disadvantages:
None.
6. Impact on resource holders
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Resource holders are allowed to transfer 103/8 ranges if the resources
were delegated before 14 Sep 2017.
7. References
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