Hi Jordi,

Thanks for the new version. SIG Chairs will soon post version 2 of this 
proposal to the mailing list for community discussion.

Regards
Sunny

On 16/02/2020 12:24 pm, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> Hi Sunny, all,
> 
> I agree that we can improve this removing the redundant text (as I've added 
> "exclusive" it is now clearly duplicating the meaning).
> 
> So, I think we should make a new version using this "shortened" text:
> 
> Actual:
> 
> 2.2.3. Assigned address space
> Assigned address space is address space that is delegated to an LIR, or
> end-user, for exclusive use within the infrastructure they operate, and may
> not be sub-assigned to other networks.
> 
> New version:
> 
> 2.2.3. Assigned address space
> Assigned address space is address space that is delegated to an LIR, or
> end-user, for exclusive use within the infrastructure they operate.
> 
> Please, update the version number of this proposal with this change, which I 
> guess it clears your impact assesment as well.
> 
> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
>   
>   
> 
> El 14/2/20 14:48, "Srinivas Chendi" <sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net en 
> nombre de su...@apnic.net> escribió:
> 
>      Dear SIG members,
>      
>      Here is the Secretariat impact assessment for proposal “prop-133-v001:
>      Clarification on Sub-Assignments” and the same is also published at:
>      
>           https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-133/
>      
>      Staff comments
>      --------------
>      
>      This proposal appears to be straightforward. APNIC notes the expansion
>      policy text to elaborate on IPv6 assignment, and it is unlikely to
>      change current practices for evaluating IPv6 requests.
>      
>      The proposed text “and may not be sub-assigned to other networks.” is
>      redundant as assigned address space cannot be sub-assigned to other
>      networks.
>      
>      
>      Technical comments
>      ------------------
>      
>      No comments.
>      
>      
>      Legal comments
>      --------------
>      
>      No comments.
>      
>      
>      Implementation
>      --------------
>      
>      within 3 months.
>      
>      
>      Regards
>      Sunny
>      
>      
>      On 20/01/2020 10:18 am, Bertrand Cherrier wrote:
>      > Dear SIG members
>      >
>      > The proposal "prop-133-v001: Clarification on Sub-Assignments" has been
>      > sent to the Policy SIG for review.
>      >
>      > (This is a new version of "prop-124" proposal abandoned after APNIC 48
>      > as it did not reach consensus at APNIC 46, APNIC 47, and APNIC 48.)
>      >
>      > It will be presented during the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 49 in
>      > Melbourne, Australia on Thursday, 20 February 2020.
>      >
>      > We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
>      > before the meeting.
>      >
>      > The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an
>      > important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to
>      > express your views on the proposal:
>      >
>      >   * Do you support or oppose this proposal?
>      >   * Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so, 
> tell
>      >     the community about your situation.
>      >   * Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
>      >   * Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
>      >   * What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more 
> effective?
>      >
>      > Information about this proposal is available at:
>      > http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-133
>      >
>      > Regards
>      >
>      > Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
>      > APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
>      >
>      > 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>      >
>      > prop-133-v001: Clarification on Sub-Assignments
>      >
>      > 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>      >
>      > Proposer: Jordi Palet Martinez
>      > jordi.pa...@theipv6company.com <mailto:jordi.pa...@theipv6company.com>
>      >
>      >
>      >     1. Problem statement
>      >
>      > Note that this proposal is ONLY relevant when end-users obtain direct
>      > assignments from APNIC, or when a LIR obtains, also from APNIC, and
>      > assignment
>      > for exclusive use within its infrastructure.
>      > Consequently, this is NOT relevant in case of LIR allocations.
>      >
>      > The intended goal of assignments is for usage by end-users or LIRs in
>      > their own infrastructure (servers, equipment, interconnections, 
> employees,
>      > guest devices, subcontractors, only within that infrastructure),
>      > not for sub-assignment in other networks.
>      >
>      > The current text uses a “must” together with “documented purposes”. As 
> a
>      > consequence, if there is a request with a documented purpose, and in 
> the
>      > future the assigned space is used for some other purposes, it will
>      > violate the policy.
>      >
>      > For example, a university may document in the request, that the 
> assigned
>      > addressing space will be used for their own network devices and 
> serves, but
>      > afterwards they also sub-assign to the students in the campus
>      > (still same infrastructure). This last purpose was not documented, so 
> it
>      > will fall out of the policy.
>      >
>      >
>      >     2. Objective of policy change
>      >
>      > Clarification of the text, by rewording it.
>      >
>      >
>      >     3. Situation in other regions
>      >
>      > This situation, has already been corrected in AFRINIC, ARIN, LACNIC and
>      > RIPE.
>      >
>      >
>      >     4. Proposed policy solution
>      >
>      > Actual text:
>      > 2.2.3. Assigned address space
>      > Assigned address space is address space that is delegated to an LIR, or
>      > end-user, for specific use within the Internet infrastructure they 
> operate.
>      > Assignments must only be made for specific, documented purposes and 
> may not
>      > be sub-assigned.
>      >
>      > Proposed text:
>      > 2.2.3. Assigned address space
>      > Assigned address space is address space that is delegated to an LIR, or
>      > end-user, for exclusive use within the infrastructure they operate, 
> and may
>      > not be sub-assigned to other networks.
>      >
>      >
>      >     5. Advantages / Disadvantages
>      >
>      > Advantages:
>      > Advantages of the proposal:
>      > Fulfilling the objective above indicated and making sure to match the
>      > real situation in the market.
>      >
>      > Disadvantages:
>      > Disadvantages of the proposal:
>      > None foreseen.
>      >
>      >
>      >     6. Impact on resource holders
>      >
>      > Impact on resource holders:
>      > None.
>      >
>      >
>      >     7. References
>      >
>      > AFRINIC: https://www.afrinic.net/policy/2018-v6-002-d3#details
>      >
>      > ARIN:
>      > 
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#2-5-allocation-assignment-reallocation-reassignment
>      > and https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_15/
>      >
>      > LACNIC:
>      > https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2018-7?language=en
>      >
>      > RIPE NCC: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2016-04
>      >
>      > Cordialement,
>      >
>      > 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>      >
>      > Bertrand Cherrier
>      > Micro Logic Systems
>      > https://www.mls.nc
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