Dear SIG members,

The proposal "prop-143-v001: ASN to Customer" has been sent to 
the Policy SIG for review.

It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting (OPM) at APNIC 53 on 
Wednesday, 02 March 2022.

 https://conference.apnic.net/53/program/schedule-conference/#/day/10

We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list 
before the OPM.

The comment period on the mailing list before the OPM is an important 
part of the Policy Development Process (PDP). We encourage you to 
express your views on the proposal:

 - Do you support or oppose this proposal?
 - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
 tell the community about your situation.
 - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
 - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
 - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?

Information about this proposal is appended below as well as available at:

 http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-143

Regards,
Bertrand, Shaila, and Ching-Heng
APNIC Policy SIG Chairs


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prop-143-v001: ASN to Customer

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Proposer: Jordi Palet Martínez ([email protected])
 Anupam Agrawal ([email protected])


1. Problem statement
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Section 12.4 allows a LIR to provide an ASN to a customer, but doesn’t allow 
that ASN to 
be used by the customer if ceases to receive connectivity, even if the customer 
gets 
connectivity from another LIR or becomes a direct APNIC/NIR customer. It also 
contradicts 
the options for a transfer.

This generates problems in many situations, such as, for example:
• Bankruptcy of the LIR that originally provided the ASN, even if other 
upstream providers 
 where that ASN was being used still provide the connectivity.
• The customer becomes a direct APNIC/NIR member.
• The LIR change providers (including the one that provided the ASN) but the 
customer network 
 is the same.

The ASNs aren’t a resource that it is subjected to exhaustion in the 
medium-long term, but it is also 
understandable that ASNs not used should be returned.

However, it doesn’t make sense that an ASN that has been assigned to a customer 
needs to be returned 
if business situations change, but the network using that ASN is still 
connected to Internet and willing 
to use the same ASN.

It should be noticed that the criteria for obtaining the ASN was already 
initially fulfilled by that 
customer, not the LIR, so that’s granted.

This is especially relevant when organizations do the transition to IPv6, as 
they may have been customers 
from several upstream providers and not have IPv4 allocations, but they need 
those for IPv6 PI, which will 
be directly assigned by APNIC (or the relevant NIR), and consequently they need 
to keep an ASN.

This should not be considered a transfer in the sense that the ASN was already 
used by that organization, 
so there is no actually being transferred from one user to another.



2. Objective of policy change
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Simplify the process and avoid a ASN change in certain cases, recognize a new 
use case for transfer and most 
importantly, record the transfer criteria in the policy document.


3. Situation in other regions
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Other RIRs don’t have explicit rules or restrictions on those cases, at least 
not clearly stated in policies, 
but the transfer of ASN is much simpler, so it fulfills what this proposal is 
trying to achieve.


4. Proposed policy solution
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Proposed text:
12.4. Providing ASN to customer
Assignments to organizations that will provide the ASN to one of its customers 
are subject to the following additional terms:
1. The customer that will actually use the ASN must meet the criteria in 
Section 12.0.
2. The requesting organization is responsible for maintaining the registration 
described in Section 5.3.3. on behalf of the customer.
3. If the customer ceases to receive connectivity from the requesting 
organization it must return the ASN. The requesting organization 
 is expected to enter into an agreement with the customer to this effect.
4. Any ASNs returned to the requesting organization must then be returned to 
APNIC or the relevant NIR.
5. Alternatively, the same ASN could be registered:
• via another upstream provider connecting that customer, or
• directly by the ASN user in cases when it becomes an APNIC/NIR member.

13.0. ASN Transfers
Autonomous System Numbers may be transferred in accordance with the following 
policies. APNIC does not recognize transfers outside this policy and require 
organizations holding such transfers to return them.
APNIC recognizes there will be situations where ASNs may be transferred between:
• Current APNIC account holders
• Current APNIC account holders and organizations in other RIR regions
• Organizations through a merger, acquisition, or takeover
• Current ASN User becoming APNIC Member 

13.4. ASN User becoming APNIC Member
APNIC will process and record ASN transfer requests from ASN User having 
received ASN from an existing APNIC member when ASN user itself becomes an 
APNIC member.


5. Advantages / Disadvantages
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Advantages:
Fulfilling the objective above indicated. Avoids the original ASN user to 
reconfigure devices and provides “stability” of the stats for that ASN (the 
traffic is from the same customer).

Disadvantages:
It may be perceived as a transfer, but actually is not, because the user of the 
ASN is the same as the one that was originally assigned to.


6. Impact on resource holders
-----------------------------
None.


7. References
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Nil.
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