Dear SIG-Policy,

Hopefully this email finds you in good health!
Please see my comments below, inline...

Le vendredi 2 septembre 2022, Fernando Frediani <[email protected]> a
écrit :

> Hello Mr Satoru and Rajesh
> Thanks for your comments.
>
>
>
Hi Fernando,
Thanks for your email, brother :-)
...and for the draft of policy proposal Prop-148.


>
> It is very important to clarify that this proposal does not require any
> implementation simply because it does not intend to change the current
> status about leasing - which is already forbidden - but only make it clear
> in the policy text for the avoidance of doubt.
>
>
>
Right! imho :-)


>
> It is also important to highlight that leasing that the proposal refers is
> only about  when a resource holder organization leases out addresses to
> another which they don't provide any connectivity acting like a RIR rather
> than an organization that builds up internet infrastructure and
> connectivity.
>
>
>
...i agree that the proposed text is already, indirectly
 providing a sort of *definition* on what's an INR
(Internet Number Resource) leasing practice; but as
 asked by Satoru's community, maybe reorganising
that wording as a sort of extensible definition [1]
would be interesting too :-/


> This does not affect in any way the ability of organizations to allocate
> IP addresses to customers they provide connectivity wherever the local they
> are in the region.
>
>
> ...imho! it should be also clearly stated into the
draft policy text that:
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/
|1. all type (IPv4, IPv6, ASN) of INRs are concerned;
|2. the definition of leasing activities is extensible;
|3. implementation is up to the Staff (PIER-Policy
Implementation Report will be shared) but it should
 be clearly stated, from the beginning, what is the
scope of the revocation of resources. Is it a
revocation of the full registration (all INRs held)?
|4. INRs, as non proprietary resources, can not be
*sell* too! as a direct consequence (as suggested
by Gaurav);
|5. what/how to report (which evidence to include);
|6. who can report to the Staff (preferably anyone
anonymously);
|7. what the Staff shall publish afterwards;
|8. the Staff is free (as per the RSA) to auto-seize a case; no matter how
they learned it;
|9. recall the lifecycle of INRs: (i) request/evaluate
a need, (ii) provide/use in compliance to policies
adopted by the community (iii) signal/evaluate new
 purpose (iv) return when need ends (v) revoque in
case of non-compliance to the Policy Manual
(v) back to the free pool;
|10. •
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This PP (Policy Proposal) is a good and very useful
tool to have for the whole INRS (Internet Numbers
Registry System) [2]...i'm in full support of the PP!
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[2]: RFC7020 <https://rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7020>

...i'm just asking for some improvement in its scope
 and other useful aspects; from my understanding.

So! a global Policy/adoption could be welcome too :-)

...a try of definition [1] of *leasing* service/practice
 (in the context of INRs distribution) follows, with
more on what it is not; in order to not result in any
limitation in some valid activities/service practices.
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[1]: <leasing_draft_definition>
|Leasing, applied to INRs usage context, could be
|seen as uneeded man-in-the-middle* practices
|where a resource holder, such as LIR, NIR, ISP, End
|-user, provides INRs as a full standalone service to
|*customers*; without any associated Internet or
|network connectivity service. That practice could
|have as direct consequence to prevent entities
|with valid needs to obtain INRs directly from the
|serving RIR & indirect consequence of preventing
|end-users, with valid needs, to contact the regional
| serving RIR to request INRs.
|Leasing practices could occur either because the
|resource holder has failed to satisfy the original
|purpose declared prior to receiving INRs or its
|hidden plan was a silent stockpilling of INRs; which
| must remain resources distributed only to entities
|able to justify a need to use it within a real network;
| for a particular declared purpose.
|Unless a resource holder provides INRs packed
|into an Internet or network connectivity service,
|any other format of service providing INRs shall
|be considered as an INRs leasing service.
|Any INRs leasing service would be provided in
|violation of fundamental principles of INRs
|distribution; thus any kind of similar standalone
|service must not be provided by any resource
|holder.
</leasing_draft_definition>


Shalom,
--sb.


> Best regards
> Fernando
> On 02/09/2022 03:50, Rajesh Panwala wrote:
>
>  [...]
>
>

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