Noah,

  1.
You clearly have not read the proposal text. You state that the proposal does 
not put a timeframe on when the temporary assignment must be returned however 
under "5.8.1.1 Scope and Goal" it clearly reads "This section describes the 
policies for the temporary assignment of IPv4 address space, IPv6 address 
space, as well as Autonomous System numbers for temporary short-term use 
periods not exceeding 6 months". If you wish to comment on a policy proposal, 
please read the text first.
  2.
What you are describing as potential abuse sure smells like what is currently 
taking place within the AFRINIC service region. Having said that, this policy 
is not for the purposes you've described and I would be surprised if the 
Secretariat decided to allow for resources to be temporarily assigned for the 
purposes you've mentioned.

Regards,
Christopher Hawker
________________________________
From: Noah <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 9:30 AM
To: Shaila Sharmin <[email protected]>
Cc: sig-policy <[email protected]>
Subject: [sig-policy] Re: Final comments: prop-156: Assignment of Temporary IP 
Resources

Hi Shaila,

The proposal does not put a time frame on when the said temporary assignment 
must be returned...

Is there a chance that the proposal could create a loophole for an entity to 
not return the said temporary assignment due continued need for the resouece 
for 5 or even 10 years..?

I have a problem with the " other purposes as APNIC deems appropriate where a 
long-term assignment may not be feasible"

The purposes that are not defined open room for abuse...  imagine a temporary 
assignment that an entity refuses to return and goes to Court to tell the judge 
that if APNIC was to recover the resource, millions of people will loose 
connectivity which is against human rights and the said Judge  decides to issue 
an interim order against APNIC since they dont have an idea what APNIC is or 
what is the whole thing all about.

In fact an entity could claim APNIC is illegally recovering the temporary 
resource which will cause total outage of the VPN server where people are using 
as VPN jumpbox to avoid censorship from some government... and recovery will 
expose those people to the said authoritarian government.

Folks have become to creative and subtle that its extremely important to be 
specific when it comes to drafting of policies.

Lots of dishonest folks out there.

Cheers
Noah

On Tue, 5 Mar 2024, 10:40 Shaila Sharmin, 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear colleagues,

Version 2 of prop-156: Assignment of Temporary IP Resources , reached
consensus at the APNIC 57 Open Policy Meeting and later at the APNIC
General Meeting (AGM).

This proposal will now move to the next step in the APNIC Policy
Development Process and is being returned to the Policy SIG mailing list
for
the final Comment Period.

- Deadline for comments:  23:59 (UTC +10) Wednesday, 3 April 2024

Proposal details, including the full text of the proposal, history, and
links to previous versions are available at:

https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-156/

Regards,
Bertrand, Shaila and Anupam
Policy SIG Chairs
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