Hello Rizwan,

At the risk of digressing from the original chain discussion, why does Akamai 
use address information from a description field in an inetnum or inet6num 
object for geolocating delegations, when there is perfectly valid geofeed field 
in these inetnum objects (which is exactly for what you've just described)? 
Network operators should be using these fields for geolocation.

Further, as Jon has mentioned the use you've described goes against the AUP. 
Usage of Whois data for demographic mapping is defined as a use case that is 
not regarded as a network operational issue.

Regards,
Christopher Hawker
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Hello,

I was contacted as a user of the bulk Whois database. Akamai operates the 
world's largest and most distributed Content Delivery Network. One of the 
inputs to our Mapping algorithms is the location of IP blocks. While we know 
that the addresses associated with IP blocks registered in APNIC (and other 
providers of whois databases) are not always accurate, this information is 
still vital for us. We need the country, city, and state/province. So, for 
example, in the following entry from the Bulk Whois database:

inetnum:        202.14.186.0 - 202.14.186.255

netname:        IPAUST

descr:          IP Australia

descr:          47 Bowes Street

descr:          Phillip ACT 2606

country:        AU

org:            ORG-IA47-AP

admin-c:        AS3775-AP

tech-c:         AS3775-AP

abuse-c:        AI712-AP

status:         ASSIGNED PORTABLE

mnt-by:         APNIC-HM

mnt-routes:     MAINT-IPAUSTRALIA-AU

mnt-irt:        IRT-IPAUST-NON-AU

last-modified:  2024-12-03T22:39:16Z

source:         APNIC

We need the last "descr" line (Phillip ACT 2606) and the country (AU). We do 
not need any contact information for individuals, and we do not need full 
street address information for IP blocks.

If the country, state/province, and city information for IP blocks is removed 
from the Bulk Whois database, it will adversely affect our operations. I hope 
you will take this into consideration and not remove that information.



Best regards,

Rizwan
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