Hi All,

 • I support the proposal.

 • It doesn't solve a problem I are experiencing, it's been years since I went 
through this process.

 • I don't see any disadvantages in this proposal.

 • I don't think there is anything in the proposal that is unclear.

 • I have no proposed changes.

It seems very well thought out and well communicated. Nice!

-JB

On Mon, 13 Jul 2026, at 16:51, Bikram Shrestha wrote:
> Dear SIG members,
> 
> A new proposal "prop-169-v001: Aligning IPv4 LIR Needs Assessment with 
> Current IPv4 Delegation Policy" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
> 
> It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting (OPM) at APNIC 62 on 
> Thursday, 10 September 2026.
> 
> https://conference.apnic.net/62/program/program/index.html#/day/7/
> 
> 
> We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list 
> before the OPM.
> 
> The comment period on the mailing list before the OPM is an important part of 
> the Policy Development Process (PDP).
> 
> We encourage you to express your views on the proposal:
> 
>  • Do you support or oppose this proposal?
> 
>  • Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
> 
> tell the community about your situation.
> 
>  • Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
> 
>  • Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
> 
>  • What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
> 
> Information about this proposal is appended below as well as available at:
> 
>   
> 
> `<https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-169/>`
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bikram, Shaila, and Ching-Heng
> 
> APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
>  
> Aligning IPv4 LIR Needs Assessment with Current IPv4 Delegation Policy
> -------------------------------------------------------
>  
> Proposer: Saima Nisar
> [email protected]
>  
> 1. Problem statement
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Section 6.2.1 of APNIC-127 still requires an LIR to demonstrate a detailed 
> plan for use of at least a /23 within one year. However, under the current 
> IPv4 delegation framework, the delegation being assessed may be smaller, such 
> as a /24. This creates uncertainty because the written requirement may appear 
> larger than the actual delegation being assessed.
>  
>  
> 2. Objective of policy change
> -------------------------------------------------------
> The objective of this proposal is to replace the fixed /23 usage-plan 
> reference in APNIC-127 Section 6.2.1 with wording that refers to the IPv4 
> delegation being assessed.
>  
> The proposal keeps the one-year usage-plan requirement unchanged. It also 
> preserves needs-based assessment, IPv4 conservation principles, and the 
> current IPv4 delegation limits. The proposal is intentionally narrow and does 
> not reopen broader IPv4 delegation, transfer, or waiting-list policy issues.
>  
>  
> 3. Situation in other regions
> -------------------------------------------------------
> In the RIPE NCC region, eligible LIRs may receive exactly one /24 from the 
> IPv4 waiting list. The issue size is explicit and fixed.
>  
> In the ARIN region, an initial /24 may qualify automatically, while larger 
> requests up to /22 require a utilization plan based on the request size.
>  
> This proposal does not claim that the same wording issue exists in other 
> RIRs. The issue is specific to APNIC-127, where Section 6.2.1 still refers to 
> a fixed /23 usage plan even though the IPv4 delegation being assessed may be 
> smaller, such as a /24.
>  
>  
> 4. Proposed policy solution
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Current wording in APNIC-127 Section 6.2.1:
>  
> “Demonstrate a detailed plan for use of at least a /23 within a year.”
>  
> Proposed replacement wording:
>  
> “Demonstrate a detailed plan for use of the IPv4 delegation being assessed 
> within one year, subject to the applicable IPv4 delegation limits in 
> APNIC-127.”
>  
> This keeps the detailed usage-plan requirement and the one-year timeframe. 
> Only the size reference changes from a fixed /23 to the IPv4 delegation being 
> assessed.
>  
>  
> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Advantages:
> Provides clearer policy text for new LIR applicants, APNIC, NIRs, and 
> reviewers.
> Makes the usage-plan requirement more proportionate where the IPv4 delegation 
> being assessed is smaller than /23, such as a /24.
> Better aligns APNIC-127 Section 6.2.1 with the current IPv4 delegation 
> framework.
> Preserves needs-based assessment and IPv4 conservation principles.
> Does not create any new IPv4 entitlement.
> Has limited operational impact, as the change is mainly to policy wording and 
> may only require related updates to guidance, forms, and assessment notes.
>  
> Disadvantages:
> No major disadvantages have been identified.
>  
> Some minor procedural work may be required for APNIC and NIRs to update 
> applicant guidance, forms, or internal assessment notes so that they align 
> with the revised wording.
>  
>  
> 6. Impact on resource holders
> -------------------------------------------------------
> For APNIC and NIRs, the main impact would be updating the wording of Section 
> 6.2.1 and reviewing related applicant guidance, forms, and assessment notes 
> where needed.
>  
> For applicants and the wider community, the proposal provides a clearer 
> documentation standard. Applicants would justify the IPv4 delegation being 
> assessed, rather than appearing to justify a fixed /23 when the delegation 
> may be smaller.
>  
> The proposal does not change who can receive IPv4 space, the /24 minimum 
> delegation, the /23 maximum total delegation from the remaining IPv4 pool, 
> transfer policy, waiting-list policy, routing, RPKI, WHOIS, RDAP, or DNS 
> operations.
>  
>  
> 7. References
> -------------------------------------------------------
> APNIC Internet Number Resource Policies, APNIC-127, Sections 6.1 and 
> 6.2.1.?https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/resources
> RIPE NCC IPv4 Waiting List.? 
> https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/ipv4/ipv4-waiting-list/
> ARIN Number Resource Policy Manual, Section 
> 4.2.2.?https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/
> 
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