On Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 02:11:23AM -0000, Nolan Darilek wrote:

|    o Most linux users don't have pubes yet and are intolerably lame (3Y3 4m
|      1337 H4x0r d00d [uz 3y3 h4v3 L1Nux!)
| 
| Uh, ok . . . Anyone feel like addressing that one?

Nope.  It speaks for itself - the author is a bozo.

|    o Too many things in the kernel that belong in user space (java)

As others have said, it's not in user space.  Bozo again.

|    o no consistant pronunciation the os'es name (line-ucks? lynn-ucks?)

Who cares?

|    o Lame NFS & dd

Are the two related?  And what's wrong with Linux's dd anyways?  If
you don't like it, get sdd, or even get FreeBSD's dd!

FreeBSD does have considerably better NFS, however.

|    o glibc? libc? libc5? libc6? glibc2?

I guess the bozo author didn't realize that FreeBSD 2.x was a.out and
FreeBSD 3.x is elf ? :)

| Hmm, why bother with the details if you don't have to? Why not let the
| distribution handle that if you're unwilling?
| 
|    o /bin/sh != sh; /bin/sh == bash. Lame. Nonstandard. Result: broken shell
|      scripts and nonportable code.
| 
| I'll grant him this point, my /bin/sh does link to bash. I don't think
| I've ever had a shell script fail on me because of this,
| though. Non-issue?

Broken shell scripts and non portable code are the result of lame
programmers, not Linux's use of bash.  He must never have seen AIX!

|    o /usr/bin/make != make; /usr/bin/make == gmake. Lame. Nonstandard. Same
|      result as above: nonportable code.

Linux's make is GNU make.  And it's a lot more `standard' than that
wierdness that comes with FreeBSD ...

FreeBSD's make is quite different than anything else out there, and at
the very least /usr/src and much of /usr/ports needs it.

|    o ext2fs
|    o can't handle partitions > 2GB

He's definately smoking some really good crack here.

   % df /y
   Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
   /dev/sdc2            16324529 6795654  9361648     42%   /y

|    o e2fsck deliberatly leaves/creates corrupt files (if there is a block that
|      it duplicate between two files, e2fsck will clone the duplicate (while
|      fsck will remove both files))
| 
| I don't know enough about these areas, would anyone care to comment?

Sounds like a good thing.  Gives you more of a chance to recover your
data.  But definately a minor point ...

|    o only allows 128M of swap at a time; for a 1G of swap, you need 8 swap
|      partitions

Older kernels only would allow 128mb of swap per partition/file -
that's true.  The limitation has been removed (or greatly increased
anyways) in the 2.2 kernels, however.

|    o To install Joe's program, you need Bob's kernel hack, but for Bob's
|      kernel hack, you've got to have Suzy's patches, but Suzy's patches only
|      work with a year-old kernel, unless you get Mike's patches to Suzy's
|      patches, but even then, those conflict with Jeff's drivers, which can be
|      resolved only by installing Nancy's patches...

Don't forget that none of these people have their pubes yet :)

|    o Can't handle the same IP on more than one interface
| 
| Comments, anyone?

Author is a bozo.  Statement is completely untrue.
 
|    o Can't handle large files

This one is true.  ext2fs (or the kernel, not sure which) can't handle
files over 2gb.  Most annoying.  I'm not sure if FreeBSD's ufs/ffs is
better, however ...

|    o flatfile password files make listing large ftp directories impossible
|      due to huge numbers of flatfile searchces.

FreeBSD does have a hashed passwd file - if you enable it.  It would
help in this case - but still, this is a pretty minor point.

Ultimately, I use both FreeBSD and Linux.  I'm a little more impressed
with FreeBSD, but it's not a surefire thing - Linux has all the `neat'
stuff and FreeBSD is more down to earth.  Ultimately I love both.

-- 
Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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