this board claims to support both pc100 and pc133 ram.  i called many
vendors who sold Athlon systems and they guaranteed me that this
stick of ram works for them in the Asus k7m.  what i am not sure about
are my jumper settings on the board (it's been years since i last jumpered
a board and the terminology is a bit different now in the manual)

ok, yes, the power button works when it is playing it's siren of despair;
however, it did not work when i was fooling with that "registered" pc100
stick -- again, i think i have the right ram for this board...

i got the cpu from some new york vendor i found in pricewatch, it's got a 
one year warranty i think, but it did come in a static bag with nothing
else but a slick Athlon sticker.

what's cool is that i blew a lot of money and bought 2 k7m boards and
2 athlon 700s, so i have another set of hardware to try out, i just have
this one "good" stick of ram though.  

i've never had this kind of shit with Asus boards.  perhaps this intrepid
step into AMD-land was a bit premature...

On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, Patrick Goetz wrote:
> RAM has gotten so complicated that I don't know if it makes a difference,
> but the ASUS motherboard you have is almost certainly designed for PC100
> memory rather than PC133.  If the clock speed is just what the stick is
> spec'ed at, then this shouldn't be a problem, but my recent foray into 
> buffered vs. unbuffered / registered vs. unregistered / CAS 2 vs. CAS 4
> has radically decreased my confidence in making these determinations.
> 
> Here is an important test:  after the thing starts beeping at you, when
> you hit the power button, does the machine turn itself off?  Because of
> the way ATX motherboards are designed, if you're having memory problems
> the power button (which is actually stateless and just opens and closes a
> circuit for ON and OFF) will probably not work.  If the power button
> doesn't work, you're probably still having a memory problem; if it does
> work, then it is more likely that it's something else.
> 
> It's highly unlikely that your CPU is bad (OTOH, where did you get it?  
> Did it come in a box with warranty or did it come in a ziploc bag from
> someone who said if fell off the back of the truck and traded it for a
> bag
> of grass?), but have you considered the possibility that you might just
> have gotten stuck with a bad MB?
> 
> Contact the vendor of the MB and find out how long they had it in stock
> before they sold it to you.  A stupid vendor trick that I recently got
> burned by is (and I won't mention the name of the local vendor, who has
> come highly recommended on this list and is NOT Chipsmart) getting a
> DRAM that they had in stock for 9 months which obviously was returned as
> defective by someone else and just put back on the inventory shelf
> because
> no one felt like doing the RMA.  A month goes by, and everyone's
> forgotten
> the part was bad.  If the MB you bought has been in their inventory for
> more than 1 month, I can almost guarantee that you got a defective board
> which was returned by someone else.
> 
> 
> > deja.com revealed all the definitions of the k7m beeps, an annoying
> > siren was not listed.  i've tried switching keyboards with another
> > (both of these are fine keyboards, i use them daily), same thing.
> > i've double checked jumpers power connectors, etc.
> > 
> 
> it can't be the keyboard anyway.  All modern boards are designed for
> systems which can be used without keyboards (for rackmount and headless
> server systems, for example).
> 
> 
> > i'd love some ideas people, this is an old problem and am about
> > to just pay someone to get this out of my hair so i can get back
> > to work.  beer and pizza to the man who gets me up and running.
> > 
> 
> First try the simple power button test mentioned above.  Then:
> 
> Take everything which is not essential to booting the machine (sound
> cards, CDROM/CDR/RW, SCSI stuff, hard disk, ethernet card) out of the
> box.  
> All you need to boot the machine is the MB, the CPU, DRAM (one stick),
> one
> floppy drive, and a video card.  Plug in a keyboard for good measure and
> attach a monitor to the video card so that you can see what's going on in
> the off chance that the thing posts, but it shouldn't matter.
> 
> If you continue to get a beep code, it has to be one of these 5 items
> (and
> it's not likely to be the floppy).  Now swap them out, one item at a time
> until the problem goes away.  Since it sounds like you haven't tried
> messing with the video card yet, try taking this out and seeing what
> happens.  If you have a spare video card or one which can be pulled out
> of
> another machine, try using this.  If another video card doesn't solve the
> problem, it has to be either the CPU, the MB or the DRAM.  End of story.
> 
> Good luck.  A machine which won't post is a f*cking pain in the ass, no
> doubt.  I've been there oh so many times.
> 
> 
>
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