that's a commendable take on the situation.
the difference here is that MIS people (this was off a MIS list)
claim to know a lot about this kind of stuff. people spout off
stuff like this often in class and everyone kind of nods as if
it makes sense, "now that's an idea...comm port conflict, yah..."
i hear this all the time, people who know me off this list know
that i am a very bitter business major.
if MIS students didn't have the attitude that they are
such advanced techie geeks i would be much less likely
to make fun of them when they showcase that they are not.
jacob childress ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Maybe I misunderstand what about this you consider to be insanity, but
> here's my take.
>
> PGP for Windows installs PGP Virtual Private Networking support by default
> in the form of an additional network protocol. I'd say that 99% of Windows
> users who bother to install PGP do so because they want to encrypt their
> Outlook or Eudora e-mail conveniently--they have no need for VPN support, it
> has nothing to do with e-mail encryption (or file encryption for that
> matter), and they probably don't even realize that it gets installed.
>
> Roadrunner tech support, for their part, are going to be nervous about any
> installed network protocol that isn't TCP/IP. They would probably tell
> customers to remove IPX/SPX or NetBEUI, if they were installed. Their
> attitude, like any underpaid, undertrained tech support worker, is that if
> something isn't needed to run the product they support, AND they don't know
> what it is, they're going to ask that you remove it. It's typical, it's
> pretty sensible troubleshooting practice, and it's no big deal. If I were
> in their place, assuming that I was unfamiliar with PGP for Windows, I would
> probably do the same thing.
>
> Moving on to something that bugs me about certain attitudes I've observed on
> this list...
>
> As far as speculation about "comm port conflicts" goes--obviously that was
> just plain wrong, but so what? Somebody doesn't know what they're talking
> about, so they come up with an explanation based on something they possibly
> overheard before. When my car breaks down, I usually haven't got a clue
> about the cause of the problem. I just don't know much about cars. It
> doesn't make me a moron. It just means I don't know much about cars and I
> don't care to. I've never had a mechanic sneer at me because I don't know
> anything about cars--and why would he or she? Mechanics make money because
> they have knowledge that other people don't. The same principle holds true
> for anyone on this list who is working in the computer industry.
>
> Humility advocate
> jacob childress
>
>
> >
> > hey guys. observe this insanity.
> > this is off a business data comm mailing list.
> >
> > he replied to the below with:
> > ----
> > I received an e-mail from a fellow student with the following
> instructions.
> > Perhaps these will solve any remaining problems:
> >
> > ""If you are having problems with Roadrunner and PGP, try the following:
> > 1. Uninstall PGP and verify that the network protocols installed by PGP
> have
> > been removed (look in SETTINGS-->CONTROL PANEL-->NETWORK).
> > 2. Reinstall PGP, this time ensuring that the PGP Virtual Private
> Networking
> > is not checked (it is checked by default).
> > 3. If the keys do not upload to the server immediately, restart the
> computer
> > and try again (mine took a few tries).
> > No guarantees, but this solved my Roadrunner/PGP problems.-David""
> > ----
> >
> > ----- Forwarded message from tom carlile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----
> >
> > Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:42:57 -0500
> > From: tom carlile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Reply-To: tom carlile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: PGP availability
> >
> > i don't understand what you're talking about. roadrunner is an isp.
> > pgp is software. your isp doesn't have to "support" pgp for you to
> > use it to encrypt your email...unless maybe you're using some
> > sort of roadrunner webmail thing.
> >
> > pgp doesn't use a com port...not sure what you mean...
> >
> > i sometimes find knowledgable people back in the little
> > room off to the back right of the mill.lab, talk to someone
> > in there about installing pgp.
>
>
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