On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, edward dertouzas wrote:
> accomodate his goals is invalid. this group focuses
> solely on the use of gnu tools, and non gnu tools on
> the linux platform and no other. if another group we
There is no "Linux platform" per se. There is a Linux kernel,
which runs on a platform that doesn't particularly have a name, which
one might best term "the GNU varient of the modern Free Un*x" (as
opposed to the mostly-equivalent BSD varient.)
> of use in the title, its enough that any derivitive
> works are returned to the community not that the non
> community be aware of non use.
Many of those who created the very "works" you are speaking of
feel differently.
> important to recognize and give credit where credit is
I'm glad you agree. And that ain't happening.
> do it is not proper to require that every reference to
> the OS be combined with references to the software
> that is running on said OS. while in fact we may owe
> more to rms for the usefullness of the operating
> system it is NOT the operating system.
You've got it backwards. While in fact we may owe more to Torvalds
for the usefullness of the operating system, it [Linux] is NOT the
operating system. GNU maybe isn't the whole story, but it's far, far more
of it.
> <flame>
> if rms could get his own kernel into a useable fashion
> he wouldn't have to try and append his titles to
> someone else's success. many of the kernel developers
> feel much the same way as linus and i in this
> contention. it would be nice if he would just concede
> the point and shut up and code.
> </flame>
He's attempting something much more architecturally ambitious than
-most- of the Linux kernel work. It takes time to build something radical.
Whether it's truely a good idea remains to be seen.
> still apart from that, the list itself references
> linux, and software related to linux, if you were to
> append the term GNU to the list it might be expected,
> rightly or wrongly, that you offer support for all GNU
> projects as well, relative to linux, hurd, or not.
Except for the constant questions about firewalling, most of the
list support is about GNU software and the software platform that is
founded on the GNU system. Not Linux.
> i do not support the list change, mainly because i
> think rms's groping for public recognition is silly.
[Insert obligatory comment about how nice of you, a noted
contributor to our collective Free Un*x system, to propound such views for
other's work.]
> open source was never about recognition, its about
> good available code.
Linux, GNU, and (most of) the Free Unix world was never about Open
Source. Not even BSD. And recognition was a big part of it, for those who
fought the battles that allowed you to be here today.
-Alex
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