thanks for the info, it is always interesting to see what else is out there
have Knoppix (and Gnoppix) but not Knoppix-STD have phlak have fire 0.35 and 0.4a have trustix ?? have BBC mainly do not have time to do more than download and see what a distribution has fire is interesting as it is really a forensic tool to analyze a system that may have been compromised and it has both windoze utilities and a bootable linux with other utilities. you can boot an NT/2000 system with the linux disk, configure the network card and share the NTFS files over the network I keep , knoppix, GNU-BBC, and fire close at hand for various everyday tasks. Hope that you got lots of sleep Saturday and Sunday as that is mostly what we did. Originally, I was intending to go to Fry's and by a better video card and some memory, but I decided that those can wait. Take care, jft -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 9:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Siglinux Digest, Vol 12, Issue 4 Send Siglinux mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://machito.utacm.org/mailman/listinfo/siglinux or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Siglinux digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Re: [COMSOC:1774] Compiler issues (Mark) 2. Re: list deprecated? (Mark) 3. Notify about your e-mail account utilization. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 4. 3c59x pc card problem (Daniel A. Thompson) 5. Re: 3c59x pc card problem (Hmamouche, Youssef) 6. linux on ppc (Joe Corneli) 7. Re: linux on ppc (Ryan Amos) 8. Re: 3c59x pc card problem (Robert Giles) 9. Re: 3c59x pc card problem (Robert Giles) 10. Re: linux on ppc (Joe Corneli) 11. linux live security distributions (Ryan Smith) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:27:31 -0600 (CST) From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Siglinux] Re: [COMSOC:1774] Compiler issues To: "Hmamouche, Youssef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm going to second the guess. I hit this about 6 months ago and I cannot remember much about it (old age does not come alone). But, yeah, there was a glibc versioning conflict, if I recall correctly. I was also cross compiling for arm, but I don't think that is relevant. namaste, Mark On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Hmamouche, Youssef wrote: > Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:30:10 -0600 (CST) > From: "Hmamouche, Youssef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Siglinux] Re: [COMSOC:1774] Compiler issues > > > my guess is you have to downgrade your c lib. > > you > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Ryan Smith wrote: > > > Has anyone seen this? This is the output from ./configure of xinetd on > > slackware 9.1 2.2.2x kernel. > > <snip> > > checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1 > > checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1 > > checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1 > > checking for gcc... gcc > > checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler > > cannot create executables > > See `config.log' for more details. > > </snip> > > I'm in the proccess of reinstalling gcc, and all the libraries to be > > sure, but I'm hoping there's a quick fix somewhere out there. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Siglinux mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://machito.utacm.org/mailman/listinfo/siglinux > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:29:23 -0600 (CST) From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Siglinux] list deprecated? To: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ack! I would hate to see this list go. Its been around for a while, and I've gotten a lot of help here. I'll make a point of being more active... namaste, Mark On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, chris wrote: > Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:18:01 -0600 > From: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Siglinux] list deprecated? > > > hi folks, > > i see so little traffic on the list these days and i don't > read the forum, so i would have missed the meeting next > weekend if it weren't in the ACM mailout. is everyone > just talking on the forum now, or has nothing been going > down and the lack of meeting announcement to this list was > just an oversight? > > thanks for cluing me in =) > _______________________________________________ > Siglinux mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://machito.utacm.org/mailman/listinfo/siglinux > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 21:01:20 +0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Siglinux] Notify about your e-mail account utilization. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear user of e-mail server "Utacm.org", Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail content) outgoing from your e-mail account. Probably, you have been infected by a proxy-relay trojan server. In order to keep your computer safe, follow the instructions. Please, read the attach for further details. Sincerely, The Utacm.org team http://www.utacm.org ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:08:36 -0600 From: "Daniel A. Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Siglinux] 3c59x pc card problem To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain Hi, I'm running Redhat 8 on my laptop, and I have a 3Com Megahertz ethernet pc card. I'm using the 3c59x driver, and everything works for a bit. After about 30 minutes, though, eth0 loses its IP address and i have to do a ifdown eth0/ifup eth0 to get it working again. I don't think this is a problem with the network, because I've got a windows box sitting right next to me that's on the same network, and its network connection doesn't ever die. Any ideas what could be causing this? Thanks, -- Daniel A. Thompson | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +1 512 736 5784 Currently in: Austin, TX ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:15:55 -0600 (CST) From: "Hmamouche, Youssef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Siglinux] 3c59x pc card problem To: "Daniel A. Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's hard to tell without looking at the logs. If it helps, disable power management for your card from the bios. you On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Daniel A. Thompson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running Redhat 8 on my laptop, and I have a 3Com Megahertz ethernet > pc card. I'm using the 3c59x driver, and everything works for a bit. > After about 30 minutes, though, eth0 loses its IP address and i have to > do a ifdown eth0/ifup eth0 to get it working again. I don't think this > is a problem with the network, because I've got a windows box sitting > right next to me that's on the same network, and its network connection > doesn't ever die. Any ideas what could be causing this? > > Thanks, > -- > Daniel A. Thompson | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +1 512 736 5784 > Currently in: Austin, TX > > _______________________________________________ > Siglinux mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://machito.utacm.org/mailman/listinfo/siglinux > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:31:41 -0600 From: Joe Corneli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Siglinux] linux on ppc To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here's a question: have any of you installed linux on a recent Mac? And a somewhat deeper question: anyone interested in helping me port Fink to Linux and/or producing a linux distribution that could be installed through the Fink package manager, and that would, at the user's option, remove Mac OS X as it installed itself? Or is this just a ridiculous idea and I should give up the idea of an "easy" migration to Linux from Mac OS X? Or maybe it is easier than I suspect - probably lots of Fink-installed things should work under Linux no problem, right? Joe ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 16:28:09 -0600 From: Ryan Amos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Siglinux] linux on ppc To: Joe Corneli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Well, there's no sense reinventing the wheel :) Fink is just an OS X port of apt-get (the debian package manager) and debian has a PowerPC distribution (http://www.debian.org/). You're going to have to format a new partition if you want to install Linux, as OS X uses HFS+ and Linux does not (it will read HFS+ just fine, but I don't think you can boot from it.) Linux is not binary compatible with Darwin, so the same program that works under Linux will not work under OS X and vice versa. In reality though, there's not a whole lot you can do with Linux that you can't do with OS X. I get the sense what you want to do is just throw a Linux kernel in an OS X system and have it work, and unfortunately that's really not possible. There are significant differences between OS X and Linux, and individual binaries have to take these into consideration. If you want to install Linux, you can still do so; Macs make admirable Linux machines in fact, but you need to create a separate partition or install another hard drive. -Ryan Joe Corneli wrote: >Here's a question: have any of you installed linux on a recent Mac? > >And a somewhat deeper question: anyone interested in helping me port >Fink to Linux and/or producing a linux distribution that could be >installed through the Fink package manager, and that would, at the >user's option, remove Mac OS X as it installed itself? > >Or is this just a ridiculous idea and I should give up the idea of >an "easy" migration to Linux from Mac OS X? > >Or maybe it is easier than I suspect - probably lots of Fink-installed >things should work under Linux no problem, right? > >Joe >_______________________________________________ >Siglinux mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://machito.utacm.org/mailman/listinfo/siglinux > > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 16:47:11 -0600 From: Robert Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Siglinux] 3c59x pc card problem To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:08 PM 3/6/04, Daniel A. Thompson wrote: >I'm running Redhat 8 on my laptop, and I have a 3Com Megahertz ethernet >pc card. I'm using the 3c59x driver, and everything works for a bit. >After about 30 minutes, though, eth0 loses its IP address and i have to >do a ifdown eth0/ifup eth0 to get it working again. I don't think this >is a problem with the network, because I've got a windows box sitting >right next to me that's on the same network, and its network connection >doesn't ever die. Any ideas what could be causing this? Probably not your 3Com card or the driver - I don't think the RH ifdown/ifup scripts actually remove and re-insert the kernel module to re-initialize the card, but they certainly DO try using ISC's dhclient instead of the DHCP client you're using now. .............................................................. Robert Giles TEXAS EX [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daihatsu.org/ ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 16:52:02 -0600 From: Robert Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Siglinux] 3c59x pc card problem To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:08 PM 3/6/04, Daniel A. Thompson wrote: >I'm running Redhat 8 on my laptop, and I have a 3Com Megahertz ethernet >pc card. I'm using the 3c59x driver, and everything works for a bit. >After about 30 minutes, though, eth0 loses its IP address and i have to >do a ifdown eth0/ifup eth0 to get it working again. I don't think this >is a problem with the network, because I've got a windows box sitting >right next to me that's on the same network, and its network connection >doesn't ever die. Any ideas what could be causing this? (let me try this again without hitting Send halfway through :) Probably not your 3Com card or the driver - I don't think the RH ifdown/ifup scripts actually remove and re-insert the kernel module to re-initialize the card, but they certainly DO restart the DHCP client. Try using ISC's dhclient instead of the DHCP client you're using now. You could also write down the IP address of your connection, do an ifdown eth0, and then manually configure your host with ifconfig to use that IP address (and see if it the connection goes away like it's doing now). .............................................................. Robert Giles TEXAS EX [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.daihatsu.org/ ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 17:22:22 -0600 From: Joe Corneli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Siglinux] linux on ppc To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I see. Well, that Linux is not binary compatible with Darwin changes things. I was also thinking about (eventually) working on helping port the GNU Hurd to "new world" ppc architecture. Is this a project that any of you would be interested in at some point? By the way, yesterday I was on the phone with Apple and I asked them in an off-handed way what sort of support they would give for their hardware if I didn't have Mac OS X installed at all. The person I spoke to at first said that they wouldn't give any support at all - and then that they would only give support if the problem was obviously a hardware issue. I'm a little concerned about this... since the way they seem to like to decide whether or not something is a hardware issue is to have you twiddle with various things in the Systems Preferences. The guy said that most likely they would just ask me to re-install OS X. I'm not so into that! Macs make admirable Linux machines in fact Can you be more specific? I've seen this opinion in one other place (talking about a PowerBook; I have an iBook). But I wasn't sure what the rationale is. Joe ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 22:12:46 -0600 From: Ryan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Siglinux] linux live security distributions To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Moderator: I apologize if this is off topic, I thought some people on the list might be interested in this. I've started playing around with some of the live linux security distributions, and thought it might be something others would be interested in. I've been pretty impressed with what I've seen so far, but they're not without their flaws. In no particular order: Knoppix-STD Home: www.knoppix-std.org <blurb> Knoppix-STD is a customized distribution of the Knoppix Live Linux CD <http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html>. Boot to the CD and you have Knoppix-STD. That would include a customized linux kernel (2.4.21 with ntfs rw, openmosix, and superfreeswan patches), Fluxbox windows manager, incredible hardware detection and hundreds of applications. Boot without the CD and you return to your original operating system. Aside from borrowing power, peripherals and some RAM, Knoppix-STD doesn't touch the host computer. STD focuses on information security and network management tools. It is meant to be used by both the novice looking to learn more about information security and the security professional looking for another swiss army knife for their tool kit. </blurb> PHLAK Home: www.phlak.org <blurb> PHLAK is a modular live security Linux distribution. PHLAK comes with two light gui's (fluxbox <http://www.fluxbox.org> and XFCE4 <http://www.xfce.org>), many security tools, and a spiral notebook full of security documentation. PHLAK is a derivative of Morphix <http://www.morphix.org>, created by Alex de Landgraaf. </blurb> FIRE Home: http://biatchux.dmzs.com <blurb> FIRE is a portable bootable cdrom based distribution with the goal of providing an immediate environment to perform forensic analysis, incident response, data recovery, virus scanning and vulnerability assessment. Also provides necessary tools for live forensics/analysis on win32, sparc solaris and x86 linux hosts just by mounting the cdrom and using trusted static binaries available in /statbins. </blurb> If you have any others that you've heard of or used send me a link. These are obviously free to dowload, but if you're bandwidth limited we have soft copies of all the latest releases in the ComSoc office (ENS130), just bring a cd or a laptop. 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