On 2012-11-09 00:56, Peter Stuge wrote:
> 
> Well that's why you specify --prefix when configuring. Look into what
> it does! :)
> 

Thanks Peter, for the nice explanations and examples!

Heh, `--prefix` should have an obvious meaning indeed ;) I cannot tell you why 
also that freaks me out a bit; I guess it's a case of "if you got burned by 
milk once - you will blow on yoghurt, too" :)

At least I'm encouraged now not to fear it too much, next time I bump into 
it... 


> One easy way to discover what it does is to run the following as a
> normal user (not root):
> 

Top snippet - good to have it this thread, where I can find it ...


> If you are consistent and never run make install as root, only as
> regular user, then you can always know which build is being run,
> because you will always need to explicitly specify if you want to run
> something other than what was installed by the package manager.

Wasn't really aware of this difference due to running as root; I need to 
explore this a bit more, sounds pretty usable to me...


> Insert rant about behavior of the debian tool here. I am not a debian
> fan and I was never very impressed by the tools. The problem is
> caused by the debian tool.

You're right - though before this comment, I would have probably said that it's 
a problem with "Linux" :) 

I am trying not to get too invested into knowing details about different 
distributions, as it always eats a lot of my time; but, I guess, there always 
comes a point where one bumps into problems, so these details cannot be ignored 
anymore... 


> I would highly recommend doing a Linux From Scratch install of a
> simple system.

Indeed, that seems to be the way; however, that requires more time than I have 
available in the next coming months.. 


> Well the thing is that the instructions are exactly the same for all
> packages that use autotools. Never package-specific. IMO the best is
> to go to the autoconf documentation for reference information.

Yeah, I guess I should actually learn autoconf/autotools too; it's nice that, 
even with being ignorant about it, things were working for me so far - but I'm 
bound to bump into repeated problems, if it stays that way.. 


On 2012-11-09 08:13, Bert Vermeulen wrote:
> On 08/11/12 21:23, sdaau wrote:
> 
>>> http://sdaaubckp.sourceforge.net/attenload
>>
> 
> Indeed, that's very interesting for us! Particularly the fact that this 
> is one of the EasyScope-supported devices -- something we don't yet have 
> support for. That's potentially quite a few scopes.
> 

Thanks for the response, Bart - and glad to hear that!


> It looks like you're in the early stages of reverse-engineering the 
> protocol yet -- replaying stuff you saw on the wire exactly, not yet 
> grokking the entire protcol. 

Exactly :) 


> I'd encourage you to delve deeper, there's 
> quite a bit of structure there. Some ASCII even! :-)
> 

The only thing I noticed as ASCII so far is that the signature of the 
oscilloscope headers is DSOPPV20 - I guess it states the firmware version as 
V20 :)


> Would you be interested in joining forces, and writing a sigrok driver? 

I would most definitely be interested; but the problem is that I have a project 
in the next months, where one of the things I need is "publication quality" 
oscilloscope measurements (therefore all that `gnuplot` stuff, to confirm valid 
data is obtained). And since before this scope, I had used `agiload` with an 
Agilent to do "one-click" captures - I got so irritated something similar 
wasn't available for the Atten, I thought it's worth the time to code an app 
(_so I'm not pissed every time I sit down to measure :) also a good exercise, 
too_)  

Had I known `sigrok` previously, I would have probably jumped directly into it 
- although, judging by my limited browsing of the wiki, "knowing `sigrok`" is 
not necessarily trivial: to begin with, I'd have to learn better the usage of 
`sigrok-cli` vs. its GUI's... I'd also have to install Python 3 (and re-learn 
its peculiarities), and I'd probably bump into other obstacles as well - all of 
which may take a lot more time than I have (and for the time being, I need to 
focus on doing actual measurements with the scope)  


> You're welcome to get on IRC at freenode.net, channel #sigrok. This is 
> where the development really happens. We're happy to help out. As you 
> can tell from the sigrok wiki, we tend to go through protocols rather 
> mercilessly (most of them were reverse-engineered).
> 

Many thanks for this - once my project is over, I'll hopefully have more time 
to contribute... 

Btw, just one question: given that `sigrok` is cross platform - then for a case 
like this, one should use `sigrok` to sniff the USB traffic between EasyScope 
and the device under 'doze, instead of doing UsbSnoop like I did; is that 
correct? 


Thanks again for the nice discussion, 
Cheers!


 


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