Hi Graham,

I did this for several years myself. I registered a company and
domains. I wrote several thousands lines of code over weekends and
nights. I never released any of it because it wasn't quite finished
yet.  I never "finished" because:
  - work always took priority over my own business
  - I was working on the wrong stuff in my business anyway

Three lessons learned:
  - find someone to be accountable to. Someone needs to force you to
release to real people so it's not just a hobby
  - learn how to work on the right stuff for a business. Don't just
work on the interesting tech or whatever's in your comfort zone.
  - As a developer you have lots of excellent fall-back options if you
quit you job and then fail to make any revenue.

Ways to get started:
  - come to a startup camp or bootup camp. You'll learn how amazingly
quickly you can get something up if you focus on the right stuff
  - come to Silicon Beach drinks and introduce yourself to a few
people.  Most will give you a kick about getting started and releasing

Alternative option:
  - contribute your talent to an open source project if you want to
keep your job but put your side projects to good use.

cheers,
Jeromy Evans

On Dec 13, 10:42 am, Hendro Wijaya <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey Graham,
>
> Welcome.
>
> This is my experience. Take it with a grain of salt.
>
> 1. There will always be conflicting advice. Both sides have successful 
> examples. Quit your job. Stay with your job. Raise money. Bootstrap. Lean 
> startup. Fat startup. Get a cofounder. Single founder. Get different 
> viewpoint but realize there is no silver bullet. You are the one in charge 
> and everyone situation is different. My personal experience: doing it full 
> time means I have to confront the fact that I have no other excuses. I can't 
> say 'I am just doing that on the side, nothing serious'. It's either I make 
> it or I make it.
>
> 2. Distribution is important. I have checked your blog. We have the same 
> genes. We are coders. We love to sit in front of computer and code. 
> Unfortunately, no one will find our products / services without a clear 
> distribution strategy. "How am I going to get my awesome products in front of 
> my customers?" is one of my questions every time I evaluate an idea.
>
> 3. New market vs existing market. Understand differences in market types. New 
> market means no one is looking for your product yet. No one realize they have 
> the problems that you have the solutions for. You need to create demand. Your 
> customers are not searching for the solutions in Google. This is usually fall 
> into "revolutionary idea" category. You need to have a clear finance plan. It 
> usually takes a long time to educate the market. No, 6 months is not long in 
> real world. Existing market is "a better mousetrap" category. It is generally 
> easier to market it. People understand the problems and looking for solution. 
> They are searching for it in Google.
>
> 4. Just do it. Ship that product out. You'll learn more by doing it. I read a 
> lot before I started and thought I would be invincible. Later I realize the 
> real education started in real world.
>
> There are still more but those are few I have on top of my head. One thing 
> for sure. It will be a fun journey. Go do it!
>
> Please feel free to email me if there is anything I can help.
>
> - Hendro Wijaya
>
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: [SiliconBeach] Introduction and Question
> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 20:42:03 +1100
> To: [email protected]
>
> I've been lurking here for a couple of months and only just noticed the 
> guidelines, specifically "no lurking!", so sorry. (How often do you read 
> email footers?)Apologies aside, here is a quick introduction, and my most 
> pressing entrepreneurial question:
> IntroIn short, I'm a Software Engineer who lives in Sydney, writes a lot of 
> code both at work and home, and loves using technology to make people's lives 
> better and/or easier.If you want to know more about that you can read a bio 
> here.
> I've joined the list because I've found over my ten years of experience that 
> it's frustrating when I have a great idea and the people above me, who make 
> the decisions, don't act on it.That's their prerogative, for sure, but I'd 
> like to be in the position where I get to make decisions, follow my own path 
> and see where that takes me.
> QuestionMy questions is:
>     What tips do you have for starting a business part-time? (And getting to 
> full-time.)
> I read Bart's "22 ways to fail" and noticed that "Don't give up your day job" 
> is apparently a great way to fail (d'oh!), so I wouldn't be surprised to get 
> a lot of "don't bother" answers.But I'm sure there must be people who've done 
> this and have either a success story, or an interesting failure that we could 
> all learn from.I've read Jason Cohen's "Employed with a side of startup", 
> which has some great advice.I'd love to just hear some tips from more people 
> who've been in the trenches and come out the other side wiser.
> Cheers,
> Graham.
> --
>
> Graham Lea
> Belmont Technology Pty Ltd
> [email protected]
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