Hi Elias, +1 for continuing the ban on David Lyons.
Thanks for the way you run the list. rgds, - matt. On 5 October 2011 16:31, Elias Bizannes <[email protected]> wrote: > David Lyon, who has the privilege of being the only real person to ever > been banned from posting on the Silicon Beach mailing list, decided to write > this note for me. Refer below. > > My comments: > (1) I hate censorship and have been a big advocate to the government to > ensure the Internet is open. Refer to [1], [2], and [3] > > (2) I get a lot of email from people, begging me to ban certain people, to > step up and enforce moderation of posts, and other requests. But my > philosophical rejection in censorship is why I've resisted from ever banning > anyone outside of genuine spammers. Lyon was the first and I hope the last > time, and I had said it would be temporary and for only 90 days (from March > 25). I completely forgot -- do people want me to lift the ban or keep it > extended? > > (3) When it comes to communities where everyone has an equal voice, some > people abuse it. The risk is that they turn away other people, decreasing > the value of community -- which is why I consider it crucial to enforce a > moderation policy. Moderation is different from banning people to have a > voice. > > (4) Lots of people use this mailing list for their own benefit. PR people > promote events, founders try to recruit for their company, and writers try > to drive traffic. It's not obvious, but I hope in open discussion people > recognise the boundaries and common sense can prevail. > > > [1] > http://eliasbizannes.com/blog/2008/07/internet-censorship-in-australia/ > [2] > http://eliasbizannes.com/blog/2009/03/the-australian-cancer-that-will-kill-the-internet/ > [3] http://eliasbizannes.com/blog/2009/12/why-im-angry/ > > Elias Bizannes > http://eliasbizannes.com > *Coming to a freeway near you:* http://startupbus.com > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Lyon <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:57 PM > Subject: Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: New fund for tech start-ups > To: [email protected] > > > What's up Elias? > > Complaining about everybody who posts as being spam is really boring. > > Unfortunately, we can't all work for big American vc firms like you > and if people in Australia say anything - you just censor them or try to > shut them down. > > It must be really great being american now and enforcing censorship on > people > in other countries from the comfort of your luxury life? working from the > large VC firm. > > silicon beach is really great now that your censorship lives on.. > > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Elias Bizannes > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Yes, thanks Kate >> >> I might add there's a thin line between a member of the community posting >> a link for discussion and a journalist trying to drive traffic to their >> article. >> >> If the post explains the main points and includes the link for those who >> want to know more: great. >> If the article teases what the article is about and encourages people to >> click: that's spam. >> >> Elias Bizannes >> http://eliasbizannes.com >> *Coming to a freeway near you:* http://startupbus.com >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Kate Kendall <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hey Ollie, >>> >>> Welcome! Great work on the ongoing coverage. >>> >>> Perhaps it would look less like "mindless plugging" and more personal if >>> you or your reporters posted under their own name. >>> >>> I think it follows the SB Google Group convetion too. >>> >>> Keen to follow the updates... >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Kate >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon Beach >>> Australia mailing list. Vist http://siliconbeachaustralia.org for more >>> >>> Forum rules >>> 1) No lurkers! It is expected that you introduce yourself. >>> 2) No jobs postings. You can use http://siliconbeachaustralia.org/jobs >>> >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/silicon-beach-australia?hl=en?hl=en >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon Beach >> Australia mailing list. 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