Thank you everyone for the intelligent discussion. You've raised points that 
go beyond what we should do but also how we should view this forum. When I 
started this group, I said:  "There's no plan on how to go about this. 
Seriously. The only thing I  do know however is that once you get people 
together, magic 
happens."<https://groups.google.com/d/topic/silicon-beach-australia/mZOKD7xpHus/discussion>
 Needless 
to say, its immediate growth, the quality of discussions, and the impact its 
had (from catalysing a movement against internet censorship to informing 
government policy on what the industry wants to inspiring the various 
accelerators that will grow the industry) have blown away even my 
expectations. That's the power of when you bring people together. And it's 
important we protect this resource.

Two thoughts have been ringing in my head. The first is the comment that 
this isn't free speech, and it's a privilege that you have to be able to 
read the posts on this group but also the ability to to post (and broadcast 
to the people that see your message). The second thought I've been mulling 
over is how can we have a lightweight governance that continue to grow the 
value of this list. 

Looking at the numbers, I've uncovered the following:
- It's high volume. We currently average about 11 separate posts a day.
- We have 1920 subscribed on this mailing list, of which 1678 are not 
bouncing (mostly due to the moderators permanently banning spammers). Of 
that 1678, about 527 get direct emails anytime some posts; 658 get digest or 
abridged emails (ie, once a day summaries); and 493 don't get email (ie, use 
RSS to consume and post via the web interface...or completely ignore the 
list).
- As an aside, we have several moderators who generously give up their time 
to moderate hundreds of messages (first time posters are moderated, spammers 
are banned). They include Bart Jellema, Kate Carruthers, Geoff McQueen, Bart 
Jellema, Chris Saad, Pratibha Rai, Nick Holmes a Court, and Paul Jones.

My personal goal is that we can evolve away from this mailing list. The 
Silicon Beach Jobs board being an example where a need was identified, and 
we built a longer term solution to house it permanently (and while it still 
needs work, it's the start of a great resource that we can grow). But the 
truth of the matter is, this mailing list is too valuable for the ad hoc 
discussions that don't have patterns (like founders posting jobs, people 
sharing links). What matters is that we keep everyone on this list 
engaged..the more people who unsubscribe, the more we know we have a 
problem.

Using David as a case in point, he frustrated people in past because he 
posted topics that were thought to be irrelevant, posted links with no 
context, and wrote comments that were seen as unnecessary inflammatory. He 
also posted a lot, which gave him a heavy presence in the minds of people 
and this list. The challenge with this, is that even though those individual 
posts may not have been bad (who's to say what someone posts is irrelevant 
to this forum?) the issue is that it's impacting the other people on this 
mailing list. The actions of one, are now ruining it for many -- and we're 
losing them.

Given email subscribers bear the cost, should we perhaps say that if 1% of 
the email subscribers complain for whatever reason, that's grounds to put 
someone on a temporary moderation? And maybe a higher threshold is a 
permanent banning? I don't know.

After some thought, here's what I think we should do:
1) Reinstate David. I said 90 days was his moderation, I don't think it's 
fair I break my word and so I've reinstated him immediately. My advice to 
you David is that you're on thin ice.
2) Develop a clear moderation policy, with the deadline to the first version 
of this being done by October 17. My thinking here being it's unfair to ban 
people or moderate them unless we have a clear policy. So I invite anyone 
and everyone to write what they think our moderation policy should 
be: 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qPMsIMQe5UhGKG_8t7Gn2Zd9G3srQsWUMzWlkk2Y2to/edit?hl=en_US

Once we finalise a community written moderation policy, we will then enforce 
that against people. From now on in, your membership on this forum is not a 
right -- it's a benefit. 

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