On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 08:07:27PM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:

> From another list: Long rantlike piece by a guy called Mark Steyn. 
> It seems to me that his basic thesis (that the western societies are 
> in for one hell of a shakeup due to demographic patterns, and may not 
> survive in any recognisable form) has a lot going for it. However, it 

Agreed.

> is dressed up in a lot of other subsidiary arguments, including a 
> theme about "Islamism" being the cause of much that ails the world, 
> that may not stand rigorous examination. Interestingly, like Thomas 

You can just lump them under one memetic label encouraging high 
birth rate.

> Friedman, I tend to agree with the starting point of many of this 
> guy's theories, but have serious disagreements with the eventual 
> conclusions - which is informed by my opinion that there is a lot 
> that is carefully left out of the analysis.

My eventual conclusion is that all of the humanity is finished,
and that machines will rule the earth. Soon, maybe even within
our lifetimes.
 
> I've had various discussions on related topics with Shiv, among 
> others. It would be fascinating to reprise them in the context of the 
> demographic "bomb".
> 
> http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007760

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