> On Fri January 27 2006 08:29, Frank Pohlmann wrote:
> > I dont think that this simplification of the state
> of
> > research into the spread of Proto-Indo-Iranian
> peoples
> > before and after the linguistic split and the
> > migration of various Indo-European groups into
> India
> > holds much water. There are few established
> opionions
> > at the moment, except those that certain parties
> > choose to make political capital of
> 
> 
> The "spread of  Proto-Indo-Iranian peoples  before
> and after the linguistic 
> split and the migration of various Indo-European
> groups into India" was a 
> continuous process that went on for many centuries. 

Indeed. I usually hesitate to put numbers to this
theory simply because there is little evidence that
lends itself to firm dating.

> 
> I would like to see evidence for the following
> theory that was taught to me in 
> school:
> 
> "The Dravidians were a race of darkskinned primitive
> people who lived in 
> India. They were conquered and driven to the South
> of India by the fair 
> skinned and advanced Aryans who came from Europe,

Ok, ok. I have no idea where this nonsense came from,
but I am sorry this ever polluted anyone's brainspace.
There were few theorists then and none now (at least
those that bother to do research every now and then)
who would have claimed that Aryans came from Europe. 

> speaking Sanskrit and 
> having an advanced culture. They set up great cities
> with streets and 
> drainage systems and ruins of those cities can now
> be found at Mohenjo Daro 
> and Harappa" the remains of the Indus valley
> civilization"
> 
> This is the problem theory that is being questioned.

I am afraid there is no problem theory, since I have
never met anyone who believes this nonsense. And I
know a fairly substantial number of Sanskritists and
Indologists. The school book commissions in India (if
that is the source) need a wake-up call from Planet
Earth.

> Even questioning that 
> theory is being attributed to right wing political
> motives. 

Huh? You are setting up a strawman here.  The same
applies to your quotes below. Again, I am not familiar
with any living and few dead Indologists (and please
dont quote early apologists of the Colonials to me -
noone would take them seriously) who would regard this
as more than a truly old joke. Again, if this is stuff
that found its way into schoolbooks, well...sigh.


For exactly the 
> same reason, supporters of the existing theory are
> attributed politcal 
> (mainly leftwing) motives)
> Europe over centuries. But no 
> "Invasion od civilizing Aryans driving primitive
> Dravidians South"

Yes. Where is the problem? And why do you quote
hilariously out of date theories?

I am not claiming that the earth is flat either:)

-Frank

> 
> shiv
> 
> 
> 



                
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