On 27-Jun-06, at 9:41 AM, Mahesh Murthy wrote:

It's interesting that a vast majority of "poor countries" or LDC's as
they're called don't practice socialism or communism in reality but are

Really? Not the last time I checked:

N. Korea - Commie.
China - Commie (diluted with bits of capitalism to keep it viable)
India - Socialist. [The right to property is not a fundamental right in India]
Most African Countries - Socialist or Communist "People's Republics"

I couldn't find a list of the top impoverished countries (didn't look too hard), but if you do find such a list, I bet you will find no capitalist countries in
it, and not even countries that were capitalist in the recent past.

either tinpot dictatorships or not-particularly-representational
democracies.

Either way, not capitalist. Dictatorship is functionally equivalent to any
other tyrannical setup, such as socialism or communism, as are
"not-particularly-representational democracies" or indeed any democracy
where the arbitrary power of the largest mob is not limited and subordinated
to individual rights through an effective constitution.

(Not unlike that bastion of capitalism, the US?)

The US is no bastion of capitalism. It may have been in the past, but it
definitely is not any longer. And its loss of fundamental capitalist values dovetails perfectly with the rise of illiteracy, crime, inflation and poverty
there.

The US remains one of the most productive societies in the world because
of the inertia of the tremendous momentum built up by its capitalistic past, and because it still retains some features of its capitalistic roots, including more economic freedom than is to be found in pretty much any other country
in the world, and a relative openness to inbound immigration.

These countries typically spend more on defence and servicing debt than on
social services (remind you of, umm... somebody?)

Socialism does NOT imply or require (or in practice translate to) spending on social services. Socialism implies only the lack of private property rights.

[From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism]

Socialism refers to a broad array of doctrines or political movements that envisage a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to social control. As an economic system, socialism is usually associated with state
        or collective ownership of the means of production.

Also interesting that the recipe prescribed by the UN and other people to
save the children in these countries (e.g.:
http://www.unicef.org/newsline/01pr44.htm) typically involves investing in
"basic social services" like education, health, water and sanitation.

The free market does a way better job of providing all of the above (if left free to do so) than any government bureaucracy ever has or ever will. Evidence for
this abounds.

Also, the UN is just about the most rabidly socialist organization on the planet. They talk unadulterated hypocritical crap all the time, and are indeed one of the principal proponents of the idiotic idea that handouts to third world countries are a good way to solve the problems of those countries. This idea is, after
all, what keeps them in business.

UN restaurants in Geneva have ten-thousand-dollar bottles of wine on the menu, which presumably make it easier to think about all those poor starving children in
Ethiopia.

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