On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 06:20:15PM +0100, Bernhard Krieger wrote: > i thought that my new year's resolution to undertake less plane journeys > and if i had to to buy carbon offsets would be the easiest one. happily > sitting on my island i avoided booking an air ticket for now almost > three months.
Heh. I fly about every three years. Arguably, less. > now i have to travel to bratislava next weekend and planned to get a > carbon offset certificate. in the uk the ngo which is mentioned > positively in the media when it comes to offset trade is climatecare > (http://www.co2.org/index.cfm) , in germany the government recommends > the ngo atmosfair (http://www.atmosfair.de/index.php?id=9&L=3). using > both carbon calculators i come up with surprisingly different outcomes. Interesting. I have to do a MUC-LHR in May, which is about 1 Mg CO2 for two people. Otoh I save about the same amount/year by biking to work. Otoh I burn about 2 MWh/year in juice for hosting. Otoh the house is heated by methane. Otoh I like to shower a lot. Hmm. It's a wash, ideally. > a) climatecare calculates for a return journey london-bratislava 0,29 > tonne carbon emissions and the offset costs gbp 2,20 (about 3,30 euros = > 11,38 euros / tonne). > > b) atmosfair calculates for the same journey 700 kg carbon emissions and > the offset costs 15 euros. > (= 21,43 / tonne). > > has anybody looked into the issue of carbon offsets more closely and can > recommend me a good organisation? They look all a bit like a scam to me. Who's controlling where the money goes? I could set up that kind of a website in a week, or so. It may not sport a logo like http://www.atmosfair.de/uploads/pics/bmulogo_en_klein.gif (I wonder whether the Bundesministerium fuer Umwelt knows?) but it certainly sounds like easy money. > some of your thoughts about: > > climate change appears so much on top of the european political agenda > (which i think is a good thing). there are so many scientific reports It's a good thing, but only as long as everybody else follows the same penalty. It takes just one big strike-breaker to ruin it for everyone. Otherwise, what passes for rational energy politics hereabouts just drives me up the wall. > now on circulation which deal with 'hard facts'. why do they become so > soft certainly? As soon as the dismal science is involved you can kiss good hard numbers good-bye. > on a side note: i was told on the atmosfair website that an average > indian would produce 900 kg carbon emissions / year which appears little > having experienced polution in an indian city for half a year. how do Pollution is not CO2. What you see and smell is something else. Also, lots of India is still rural. > people come up with these estimations? -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org";>leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
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