On Jan 14, 2008 1:28 PM, Charles Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been to DC, and I enjoyed it, but as you say DC is not so much
> about art. Though it was a great joy to be able to put my hands on
> some clay on a wheel there. I miss working with clay. I've noticed
> that, Auroville aside, there seems to be almost no studio pottery here
> either. Am I missing something? There's some handwork in terra cotta,
> and there's plenty of production pottery, but no real studio pottery.
> Why do you think that is?
>
>
There was a showing  in one of the slicha upmarket art-galleries a  while
ago, of  pottery and stuff. Details escape me now, but I think it was a
bunch of fashion design students.  Also, an ex ad dude sells artsy pottery -
lamp-shades and other bric-brac - that he creates. Will try get details from
a common friend.


On Jan 14, 2008 1:39 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> There's some.  Carnatic music is much more hidebound with tradition than
> western classical music, and yes - years of practice are required to
> actually express yourself.


Practice, spending time with one guru who will polish your skills up -
playing second/third fiddle to him/her, minor concerts, and thus before you
can break into the mainstream kutchery scene. And even then, success is a
bit of an eel.


Add to it that there are enough tapes, CDs etc of the old masters still in
> widespread
> circulation, with several of them practically OWNING a song thanks to the
> mastery they have stamped on it, that any variation at all would get a
> critical reception from a number of people.
>

I am not sure of that. At least in my family, people who do a song
differently are appreciated.
As long as people can recognize the raagam and the overall framework the
original composer left, nuances are appreciated.
But yeah, people still wax eloquently about a certain way Madurai Mani Iyer
or Maharajapuram sang the particular kriti. (Er...song)



> A lot of new artistes (including established ones like Nithyashree
> Mahadevan, granddaughter of one of the greats, D.K.Pattammal) sometimes
> equate interpretation with "crass commercialism" and "fireworks" .. the
> sort
> that would draw applause from a crowd but doesn't have much substance
> behind
> it
>
> Reminds me of the old K. Balachandar movie - Sindhu Bhairavi.


> Not that Nithyashree doesn't back that showmanship with enormous talent..
> just that I hate the fireworks she trots out, and her voice tends to
> shatter
> glass at high pitches, so I reach for my earplugs whenever someone tunes
> into one of her concerts here.


LOL. Yeah.

>
> Oh yes. A lot of experimentation is in using non-traditional instruments
> (like composers of the early 1800s first saw violins being used to play
> western music and then adapted them, right from changing the tuning of the
> violin to an entirely different playing and bowing technique).  Now you
> have
> kadiri gopalnath playing sax, u.srinivas on the mandolin and best of all
> ..
> "Guitar" Prasanna.  Carnatic music on an electric guitar.
> http://www.guitarprasanna.com /
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Prasanna
>

Vicky Vinayakram experimented with the Ghatam (clay pot), his son (forget
the name now) experimented with the Ganjeera. As do a few other people.
Shivamani does a lot of experimenting, impromptu performances and such.
Guitar Prasanna is not bad at all. He was a regular in my school - as a
performer. Got a lot of us pretty excited.

Music Academy in Chennai has at-least four five concerts a year that are
experimental/fusion. One concert last year was the carnatic violin, the
trumpet, a bass-guitar and drums, backed by some good singing. Four-five
years ago, Mandolin Srinivas and Zakir Hussain (tabla) played in Madras for
a charity show.

Besides, Bharata Natyam sees a lot of personal expression - people like
Shobana and Padma Subramaniam have done some weird shit, which I shall
frankly confess to not understanding at all. But then, they brought some
life into a dance form that was becoming heavily middle-class-brahmanized.


Patronage is for established artists.  Community support for amateurs and
> journeymen
>

The sabhas of Madras also take pride in discovering the next big talent, or
they were.
Also, drama and theatre finds a good bit of support from people.



C


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