in Telegu, it is Panchadara and chakkira. my understanding is that there is
a greek account in Alexander's time that refers to the sugarcane
as producing "honey without bees".

On Feb 8, 2008 8:35 AM, Ramjee Swaminathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> :-) the rambler strikes again. Probable reason: too much sugar.
>
> On 2/7/08, Abhijit Menon-Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <snip>
> > > (but again, not in all languages - in Malayalam and Tamil, they are
> > > respectively called charkarai and chakkara, AFAIK - there are also
> > > cheenchakkari, chenjeeni etc in colloquial refs) .
> >
> > BTW, in Malayalam, cc sugar is usually called "pan[cha]sara". I've only
> > heard the "charkarai" form used for gur or perhaps palm sugar. Is there
> > a similar distinction in Tamil?
> >
> Thanks! I forgot this pansarai funda. We used to have Nair neighbours
> and they used to tell us that from region to region there were
> different and slightly varying references to sugar and that anyway
> only after moving to Madras they even 'saw' white sugar!
>
> vella chakkarai - pounded and granulated gud/jaggery
> panam-khandu - palm khand
> panam-cheeni :-) - palm sugar
> panai-vellam - palm jaggery
> etc etc...
>
> > > There are some recorded instances of cc sugar being imported into
> > > western india from china (during circa 1-200 ad)
> >
> > Fascinating. I did not know that. What route did it take?
> >
> When there were no wars in the NE, NW and N of India, there was very
> little that was imported from china as there was no need to import
> sugar as it was never an issue of scarcity then. During wars, however,
> the sea routes were used (malacca straits, ceylon, round kanyakumari
> and onwards to either musiri or kollam or n other ports near what are
> now famous as Kanhoji Angre's (one of the greatest naval strategists
> and admirals) port bastions.
>
> In any case, the shipments apparently werent huge or anything, White
> crystalline sugar must have been a 'delicacy'  considering everything
> (my take) - the echoes of a similar context are found in paperback
> 'pioneer' recap literature of North America, such as that of Laura
> Ingalls Wilder. That white sugar be used for 'company' and as a status
> symbol.
>
> > > * Om Prakash - Food and drinks in ancient India
> >
> > I think I'll try to find a copy of that. Speaking of which, I should go
> > to the book fair in Delhi before it ends.
> >
> Good luck and warm regards:
>
> __r.
>
>

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