Hi Guys, Sorry for the late introduction.
I am an E&C engineer from D.C.E working as a software developer for Mpower Mobile Systems, Delhi. Got to know about Silklist from Ram. Remember reading about a meetup in bangalore, has anything been finalized ? I'll be in Bangalore on coming 19th and 20th to attend the BarcampBangalore(anyone else going there too?) at IIMB. Cheers, Mayank On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:33 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Send silklist mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/silklist > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of silklist digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: p2p? nah! - was Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents (ss) > 2. Re: Google Apps email spam filter (Suresh Ramasubramanian) > 3. Re: Copying is Good: Different is not better (divya manian) > 4. Re: Copying is Good: Different is not better (ss) > 5. Re: Copying is Good: Different is not better (Charles Haynes) > 6. Re: Copying is Good: Different is not better (Udhay Shankar N) > 7. Re: p2p? nah! - was Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents (Biju Chacko) > 8. Re: Mexican Food in India (Venkatesh Hariharan) > 9. Re: Mexican Food in India (Abhijit Menon-Sen) > 10. Re: Mexican Food in India (Madhu Menon) > 11. Re: rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents (Madhu Menon) > 12. Re: Mexican Food in India (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:45:15 +0530 > From: ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [silk] p2p? nah! - was Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thursday 10 Apr 2008 9:59:14 pm Ramjee Swaminathan wrote: > > I am merely > > hinting at the possibility that it's effect is minimal and that the > > damage/goodwork done to the child (direclty and indirectly) is already > > done by the time peers enter the picture. > > True IMO. > > The peer group become really important when trust has not already been > built > up between parent and child. If the peer group becomes more important than > the parent - it's too late. > > shiv > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:05:34 -0700 > From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [silk] Google Apps email spam filter > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > ashok _ [10/04/08 18:58 +0300]: > >Sorry didnt get your reply (is there a list delivery problem on > >silk-list ?)... picked > >this up from the yahoo group archive.... > > none here. I run the server myself so .. > > >The server we are running is a dedicated server that also runs an IRC > server. > >The problem appears to have started from the middle of March. > > Did you have an irc kiddy playing games, or did you get a hacked php / cgi > script sending spam etc around that time? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:12:53 +0800 > From: "divya manian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [silk] Copying is Good: Different is not better > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 4/10/08, ashok _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Different is not better > > > > At Intel's advanced-chip plants, normal > > consistency doesn't cut it: The company even > > copies the air in the room > > > > < > http://www.oregonlive.com/business/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/business/1194591355141180.xml&coll=7 > > > > Isnt this what McDonalds does to every franchise that opens up around > the world for their staple recipes? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:42:10 +0530 > From: ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [silk] Copying is Good: Different is not better > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thursday 10 Apr 2008 9:12:16 pm ashok _ wrote: > > Imagine a friend serves you an especially > > delicious cake and offers to share the recipe. > > Seems like something you could make, until you > > get a look at the ingredients: The eggs must come > > from the same farm where your friend got hers. > > Flour, ground from the same crop of wheat. Water > > from the same tap. > > > > That's how Intel makes its computer chips: It > > takes recipes cooked up by its Hillsboro > > engineers, then copies them exactly at factories > > in such far-flung locales as Arizona, New Mexico > > and Israel. > > Actually this sounds like typical corporate propaganda via an advertorial, > of > which one sees a lot in unexpected places and ways. > > The only "proven" concrete example I have of this was the myth that the > BBC > (TV) always started its programs dead on time. That myth was built up by > the > use of an analog clock showing a few seconds before six o'clock in which > the > second hand ticked its way up to EXACTLY six PM when the six o'clock news > would start, always, invariably and precisely at 6PM. > > However timed recordings of other programs showed that no other program > ever > started exactly on the dot. > > Don't know about computer chips but there is a lot of variation in lots of > products that use the myth of quality and reliability. Buy a Mars bar in > the > UK and compare it with a Mars bar bought in the Gulf states or Thailand, > or > even a box of Dansk Butter (shudder) cookies bought in the Europe versus > what > is imported from Malaysia. > > shiv > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:52:33 -0400 > From: "Charles Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [silk] Copying is Good: Different is not better > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:12 PM, ss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Actually this sounds like typical corporate propaganda via an > advertorial, of > > which one sees a lot in unexpected places and ways. > ... > > Don't know about computer chips but there is a lot of variation in lots > of > > products that use the myth of quality and reliability. Buy a Mars bar > in the > > UK and compare it with a Mars bar bought in the Gulf states or > Thailand, or > > even a box of Dansk Butter (shudder) cookies bought in the Europe > versus what > > is imported from Malaysia. > > While I agree with you in general, in this specific case I find > Intel's claim plausible. 1) I've seen (a small part of) what Intel > does to get consistency in manufacturing 2) I have a small > understanding of what's required to make chips. > > So you're right to be cynical and suspicious in general, but *I* think > this case is legit. > > -- Charles > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:28:44 +0530 > From: Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [silk] Copying is Good: Different is not better > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > divya manian wrote, [on 4/11/2008 7:42 AM]: > > >> At Intel's advanced-chip plants, normal > >> consistency doesn't cut it: The company even > >> copies the air in the room > >> > >> < > http://www.oregonlive.com/business/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/business/1194591355141180.xml&coll=7 > > > > > > Isnt this what McDonalds does to every franchise that opens up around > > the world for their staple recipes? > > Um, no. One immediate counterexample I can think of: You can't get very > much more "staple" in the McD context than the Big Mac (i.e, one big > hunk of industrially harvested beef in a roll). You don't get that in > India, for example. > > As for why this is unique, see below. > > ss wrote, [on 4/11/2008 8:42 AM]: > > > Actually this sounds like typical corporate propaganda via an > advertorial, of > > which one sees a lot in unexpected places and ways. > > Yes and no. > > "Copy exactly" is primarily a means of *transferring technology*. > Setting up a fab is so expensive (the new one in Oregon cost $3B to set > up) and the opportunity costs of delay or improper technology transfer > are so high, that one tends to go to great lengths to find a system that > works well. Here [1] is a good overview of the process and the thinking > behind it. From the link: > > > Copy EXACTLY! Philosophy > > > Stated in its simplest form, ?everything which might affect > > the process, or how it is run? is to be copied down to the > > finest detail, unless it is either physically impossible to do > > so, or there is an overwhelming competitive benefit to intro- > > ducing a change. > > I recommend reading the document in its entirety. > > Disclosure: I work for Intel, but these are my personal views. > > Udhay > > [1] ftp://download.intel.com/technology/itj/q41998/pdf/copyexactly.pdf > -- > ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com)) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:46:21 +0530 > From: "Biju Chacko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [silk] p2p? nah! - was Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Ramjee Swaminathan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyway, the point is that regular or irregular schools, the onus is > > actually on the parents. > > That, in fact, is the crux of the matter. Personally, the > responsibility of making sure my kid turns out normal (let alone an > achiever) is kinda scary. Hence the hand wringing tension over the > choice of school. It's one of the few things that parents think they > have some control over. > > -- b > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:01:56 +0530 > From: "Venkatesh Hariharan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [silk] Mexican Food in India > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Bombay has Cream Center (Chowpatty and Bandra) which serves edible Mexican > stuff. i tried Mexican at TGIF in Connaught Place in Delhi (where I am now > based) and it was OK, though I had to specifically ask them to get me > guacamole (I love that stuff). > > I miss a place like Picante in Boston's Central Square (lived there in > 98-99) where you could help yourselves to varieties of salsa! > > Mmmm.. this thread has got my tatebuds working overtime now :-) > > Venky > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Srini Ramakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've been wondering why there is an acute lack of *any* restaurant, in > > > Bangalore, that serves Mexican food. I'm not sure if this is true of > > > the rest of India too... > > > > Indi Joes is a chain found at least in Bangalore and Hyderabad that > > serves "tex-mex" cuisine. I don't need to tell you that it's a pale > > comparison to any palate that's used to the real stuff. However the > > ambiance is nice, and at least in the one I've been to in Bangalore > > their happy hours are really long, and really happy. Hyderabad > > apparently doesn't need booze to remain happy, so ... > > > > Cheeni > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:16:31 +0530 > From: Abhijit Menon-Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [silk] Mexican Food in India > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > At 2008-04-11 11:01:56 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > i tried Mexican at TGIF in Connaught Place in Delhi (where I am now > > based) and it was OK > > Ten, at the YWCA on Parliament Street in Delhi, serves Mexican food > (Quesadillas, especially) that I enjoyed eating; but I have never > had an opportunity to sample authentic Mexican food. > > -- ams > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:28:37 +0530 > From: Madhu Menon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [silk] Mexican Food in India > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Late to this thread due to all the running around trying to relocate my > restaurant, but here's my 2 paisa: > > Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: > > Ten, at the YWCA on Parliament Street in Delhi, serves Mexican food > > (Quesadillas, especially) that I enjoyed eating; but I have never > > had an opportunity to sample authentic Mexican food. > > I think that is indeed the crux of the problem. Most people don't have a > point of reference for "authentic" Mexican food (yours truly included.) > The only thing that they are familiar with is the Tex-Mex stuff - dishes > you can find at places like IndiJoe's, Ruby Tuesday, TGIF, etc. When the > impression so many people have of the cuisine is that it's "meat in a > tortilla with cheese and some stuff on the side", it's an uphill task to > elevate it to any kind of "fine dining" concept. It's far less risky to > sneak in a couple of dishes as part of some fusion or coffee shop menu. > > Madhu > > -- > <<< * >>> > Madhu Menon > Shiok Far-eastern Cuisine > Indiranagar, Bangalore > Visit us @ http://www.shiokfood.com > Book your table online: http://www.shiokfood.com/reserve.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:29:54 +0530 > From: Madhu Menon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [silk] rant - Re: Wanted: Exceptional parents > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > We home schooled our children. Not a popular option in India I think, > > and one can argue whether that puts our kids in the "good peers" or > > "bad peers" equation, but I'm pretty happy with the results. > > Charles, what exactly did "homeschooling" involve? Did you personally > teach them everything? Hired private tutors? I'm curious. > > > -- > <<< * >>> > Madhu Menon > Shiok Far-eastern Cuisine > Indiranagar, Bangalore > Visit us @ http://www.shiokfood.com > Book your table online: http://www.shiokfood.com/reserve.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:40:27 +0530 > From: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [silk] Mexican Food in India > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Venkatesh Hariharan wrote: > | Bombay has Cream Center (Chowpatty and Bandra) which serves edible > Mexican > | stuff. i tried Mexican at TGIF in Connaught Place in Delhi (where I am > now > | based) > > ... you work out of the TGIF at Connaught Place ? this i did not know ;) > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFH/wDTXQZpNTcrCzMRAkbTAJ9vD2VsACOYUYc1/Xq8iqUrR4kO8ACgiw5Q > RStV5bsL7SMT5BQLSZk72tk= > =Mml2 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > silklist mailing list > [email protected] > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/silklist > > > End of silklist Digest, Vol 45, Issue 24 > **************************************** > -- It is not enough to aim; you must hit.......
