On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Aadisht Khanna
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You make an assumption that there is a well known, and widely
>> accepted, objective definition of "progress". Tell me, what is the
>> progress being achieved in the conflict in the Democratic Republic of
>> Congo? Northern Uganda with the LRA? Colombia with FARC? Are these
>> conflicts maximizing individual or societal potentials?
> While I hate falling into the trap of quoting management jargon, I think
> you're confusing underlying conflict with the medium through which said
> conflict expresses itself.

You have a point there. There is conflict the verb and conflict the
noun. I am, of course, talking about the verb form.

> The examples which you cited are all examples of
> conflict leading to war. You can also have conflict resolution through a
> civil/ criminal justice process, conflict between companies expressing
> itself in marketplace competition, (peaceful) conflict over resources
> resolving itself through technological development to spur productivity.

In several of these conflicts through war that I list, the conflict as
a verb is an expression of market competition. The civil war in
Eastern DRC, for example, is, among other things, a conflict over
resources but executed (accidental pun) through the means of violence.

> This does not do anything to answer Gautam's original question. As you've
> pointed out, the expression of conflict can lead to war or any other sort of
> destructive power struggle - meaning that conflict is not sufficient to
> achieve progress (by any common-sensical definition of the word). Also, if
> you hold truck with Heroic / Great Leader theories of innovation (Mozart
> would have been a musical genius and written marvelous symphonies with or
> without facing any conflict), or Random Walk theories of history (things
> just happen. What the heck.), then conflict is not necessary for progress
> either.

Thanks for this food for thought.

Thaths
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