Well, right now if some people fail courses in the IIT they approach the
SC/ST commission complaining about racial discrimination.

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1171881

Oh, and any Amdavadi silklisters around, y'all ok? Looks like someone let
off 17 bombs there - http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1179930

        srs

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Radhika, Y.
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:24 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [silk] Disadvantages of an Elite education
> 
> Is this true in the IITs? I certainly knew people who had failed
> classes
> after getting into IIT but that was in the 80s before the IITs were
> recognized in the west.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Badri Natarajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > This is pretty much the story of my university education. Gautam,
> Alok,
> > > ring any bells?
> > >
> > > <http://www.theamericanscholar.org/su08/elite-deresiewicz.html>
> >
> > On a related note:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&storycod
> e=402674
> >
> > All the privileged must have prizes
> >
> > 10 July 2008
> >
> > The banality and sense of entitlement of rich students at Harvard
> left
> > John H. Summers feeling his teaching had been degraded to little more
> > than a service to prepare clients for monied careers
> >
> > I joined the staff of the Committee on Degrees in Social Studies at
> > Harvard University in 2000. As tutor, then as lecturer, I advised
> > senior theses, conceived and conducted freshman and junior seminars
> > and taught the year-long sophomore tutorial, Social Studies 10, six
> > times. The fractured nature of my appointment, renewed annually for
> > six successive years while never amounting to more than 65 per cent
> of
> > a full-time position in any one year, kept me on the margins of
> > prestige and promotion even as it kept me there long enough to serve
> > three chairmen of social studies, two directors of study and three
> > presidents of Harvard.
> >
> > The post-pubescent children of notables for whom I found myself
> > holding curricular responsibility included the offspring of an
> > important political figure, of a player in the show business world
> and
> > the son of real-estate developer Charles Kushner.
> >
> > In the first meeting of my first seminar of my first year, Kushner's
> > son Jared entered my classroom and promptly took the seat across from
> > mine, sharing the room, so to speak. I was drawing an annual salary
> of
> > $15,500 (£7,700) and borrowing the remainder for survival in
> > Cambridge, in order that he might be given the best possible
> > education. Jared later purchased The New York Observer for $10
> > million, part of which he made buying and selling real estate while
> > also attending my seminar. As publisher, one of his first moves was
> to
> > reduce pay for the Observer's stable of book reviewers. I had been
> > writing reviews for the Observer in an effort to pay my debts.
> >
> > Most of the students I encountered had already embraced the
> > perspectives of the rich, the powerful and the unalienated, and they
> > seemed to have done so with appalling ease. In keeping with the
> > tradition of the American rich they worked exceptionally long hours,
> > they were aggressive in exercising their talents, and on the
> > ideological features of market capitalism they were unanimous. Their
> > written work disclosed the core components of the consensus upheld by
> > their liberal parents: the meaning of liberty lies in the personal
> > choice of consumers; free competition in goods and morals regulates
> > value; technological progress is an unmixed good; war is unfortunate.
> >
> > Around this consensus crystallised an ethos. One of my less affluent
> > students, the son of a postman, asked me once for advice about a
> > financial investment. He said his friends had told him to invest "in
> > prisons", meaning one of the private companies winning the management
> > contracts for correctional facilities. I told him what I thought
> about
> > this recommendation; but only later, when I learnt how little he had
> > to invest ($2,000 was his total savings), did I allow myself to think
> > I understood the significance of his question. No amount of money may
> > be permitted to lie idle if something may be got for nothing. The
> > capitalist theory of life as a game disallows uncapitalised
> > advantages.
> >
> > I asked each of my seminars whether they had so far encountered a
> > teacher they genuinely appreciated. If so, what aspects did they most
> > admire? Invariably they said good teachers made them "feel
> > comfortable". To sense the sterility one had only to listen:
> "shopping
> > period" was the name of the week they selected their classes. Once,
> > when I proposed to teach a junior seminar entitled "Anarchist
> cultural
> > criticism in America", I was instructed to go ahead only if I first
> > changed the title to "America and its critics". Here was the same
> > method of cultural hygiene that has transformed Harvard Square from a
> > bohemian enclave into an outdoor mall.
> >
> > Grading, the one instrument of power I wielded, offers the best
> > example of the degradation of pedagogy by the frenzy of success. The
> > Boston Globe's expose of grade inflation at Harvard has left little
> > doubt that it is a semi-rigged competition, another subsidised risk.
> > The formal scale runs from A to F. The tacit scale runs from A to B.
> I
> > learnt the latter from students and supervisors, but especially from
> > colleagues, few of whom wish to carry the opprobrium of the low end.
> > This is as it may be. But the presence of two standards of value, one
> > official and one tacit, is always a sign of corruption: the one
> > necessarily dishonours the other. It also abridges the academic
> > freedom of the teacher. Although I never gave a final grade below B
> > minus, I can attest to the petty harassment that teachers attract in
> > such cases. I do not mean merely that the students are never so
> > aggressive and articulate as when they hunt for grades. I mean that
> > they wage political reprisals against the B-minus grader and send
> > gifts to high-placed academic directors.
> >
> > Once, a judge and his wife went to my supervisor to complain about a
> > grade I had assigned to their child in a senior oral examination.
> They
> > rested their complaint on the fact that I was not yet in possession
> of
> > the all-encompassing credential, the PhD. They pointed out that the
> > second examiner in the room had assigned the exam a slightly higher
> > grade, and that this second examiner was, in fact, a PhD. The judge
> > and his wife did not know, nor did they care to discover, that I was
> > by far the more experienced of the two graders. I had been conducting
> > exams for four years; the second examiner had never before conducted
> > one. A minor gaffe, but one that William James, author of "The Ph.D.
> > Octopus" (1903), could have understood and appreciated.
> >
> > In January 2008, a "group of Harvard alumni from the Vietnam War era"
> > sent an open letter to the university's president. "We are concerned
> > by what we see to be the widespread apathy and political indifference
> > of the student body at Harvard College today," said the letter
> > (reported in Times Higher Education on 4 January 2008), which defined
> > the problem as "self-examination and broad intellectual growth versus
> > the careerist, vocational orientation". The letter was only
> > half-right: the students are the opposite of apathetic and
> > indifferent. The new student rich have retained the radical energy of
> > the 1960s, only to engage it in more lushly monetised competencies.
> > The New Left occupied universities to protest against the
> bureaucratic
> > hollowness of examination rituals and grading rationales. Now its
> > children complete the attack on the authority of teachers, who are
> > simply annexed to the management of student careers, drawn into a
> > tacit agreement between corporation and client in which failure is
> not
> > an option. I had to grade the students, and I had to grade them well.
> > Everyone expected a recommendation letter.
> >
> > The ethos, so understood, mimics the psychodynamics of inflation in
> > this age of unlimited markets. Since the students were young,
> > apparently, their parents and teachers have bathed them in ambitious
> > glances, so that the source of their very identity has come to lie in
> > their potential. Perhaps this is why, though they demand to be graded,
> > they resent the teacher's claim to judgment based on performance,
> > which implies a stable set of values. A relatively low judgment may
> be
> > met by the always available thought that they could have done better.
> >
> > This thought is not as easy to rebut as one might suppose. Harvard
> > students may be divided into three types. The first two are those who
> > infer from their presence on campus that they have already made it
> and
> > those who infer that they are on their way to making it. Both types
> > are keenly aware of the prestige-value of their situation. To mention
> > to a stranger where one studies is to drop the "H-Bomb". Neither type,
> > accordingly, has encountered any really good reason to suppose that
> > their potential is anything but limitless. Members of the third type,
> > the ironists and the scoffers, have their degree and eat it too,
> since
> > their anti-Harvard posturing carries no real risks. The gigantic
> > endowment, that great symbol of unspent potential, blesses their
> > scepticism by indexing their value on the credentials market.
> >
> > Consider how the grading scandal (an open secret on campus) broke
> into
> > the public discussion at the same time the dot-com bubble burst. Try
> > to see these phenomena as twin instances in the chronic overextension
> > of the credit markets. Now ask the question: when intellectuals act
> as
> > clerks and students act as clients, how do college teachers differ
> > from corporate accountants?
> >
> > Should I say I am grateful for the chance to teach at Harvard? I am.
> > Should I acknowledge the many fine exceptions it was my privilege to
> > instruct? I do, with pleasure. But the sedulous banality of the rich
> > degrades teaching into a service-class preoccupation whose chief duty
> > is preparing clients for monied careers. The liberal flattery of the
> > student is both sentimental and irrelevant. If youth is wasted on the
> > young, is teaching wasted on students?
> >
> > Teaching on the part-time staff at Harvard is a little like visiting
> > Disney World. The magic dust induces a light narcosis. The mind goes
> > incontinent in the presence of paradox and conflict, and it is tough
> > to tell how much fun you are having from how much you are having to
> > pretend. The important thing is never to become the screamer who
> ruins
> > the ride for everyone. The line is long.
> >
> > Postscript :
> >
> > John H. Summers is visiting scholar in the Boisi Center for Religion
> > and American Public Life, Boston College, and the editor of The
> > Politics of Truth: Selected Writings of C. Wright Mills, to be
> > published in September. A longer version of this essay will appear in
> > his collection, Every Fury on Earth, to be published in August.
> >
> > --
> > ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Radhika, Y.R.
> Project Manager,
> Centering Women project, Sri Lanka
> International Center for Sustainable Cities
> 415 - 1788 W. 5th Avenue
> Vancouver BC Canada


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