--- On Tue, 19/5/09, ss <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: ss <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 7:14 AM
> On Monday 18 May 2009 11:36:44 am
> Divya Manian wrote:
> > On the other hand, anyone inciting anybody else, or
> dehumanising some
> > people is a threat to secularism and should be
> stopped.
>
> I do not disagree Divya - but you know I have laid a trap
> (or I will now
> proceed to lay the trap)
>
> Is there any "cut off date" before which inciting and
> dehumanizing can be
> declared valid. After the cut off date people doing that
> can be declared a
> threat to secularism.
>
> The reason why I call this a trap is because "secularism"
> means no religion.
> Religion must be kept out. If you try to make some
> exceptions for religion
> and say it's OK to have a little bit of religion, ("because
> people respect
> religion and all religions are good, sarva dharma
> sambhava") then it is not
> difficult to dig up religious literature that ostensibly
> dehumanizes and
> incites.
>
> shiv
I don't understand this.
This is precisely the point, that the rule of law, a civil law, not a law
coming straight from the lips of a hairy old man (or a hairy young man, for
that matter), is what we need.
What we do not need is a phony situation where our religious proclivities are
concealed under a peculiarly Indian formulation, totally worthless and
intellectually decrepit, which insinuates the thought that accepting all
religions is equivalent to accepting no religion. That white, in effect, is
equivalent to black.
This is the absolute depth to which we have sunk. And thanks to Mr. Gandhi's
batty views on the subject, and our irrational reverence for cranky old men
(Gandhi, not Advani), we have been carrying this cross - and the Congress along
with it - around our collective necks for 61 years.
If people really want to get rid of pseudo-secularism, which is what this is,
they have to stand up first and acknowledge that minority bashing does not
neutralise minority pandering, that both are equal evils and both should be
driven out tarred and feathered.
In saying all this, I have probably landed in whatever subtle Brahminical
Manuvadi trap Shiv has designed, but to hell with it.
Shiv, can we have a time-out on this one? A ghost from the past has reared his
head, and there's some cattle-truck polishing that may become urgently
necessary. This is an emergency. That **** can't be allowed to roam about free.
I still don't understand the cut-off date business.
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