On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Manar Hussain <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Pranesh Prakash <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> On Friday 09 October 2009 06:50 PM, Manar Hussain wrote:
>>> Which seems most unusual, but presumably the purpose of recognising
>>> past deeds is to encourage the future deeds of others. I think there's
>>> some merit - though I'm far from convinced - in saying that Obama has
>>> an exceptional opportunity, which the prize makes more likely, that if
>>> achieved would be very significant furthering of the prize's raison
>>> d'etre.
>>
>> I agree with the first bit, but shouldn't the prize should be awarded to
>> recognize contribution, rather than mere aspiration.  How else would one
>> distinguish between a beauty queen promising to work towards world peace
>> and the president of the USA doing the same?  "Opportunity" (even if
>> exceptional) is not sufficient, as diplomacy and anti-nuke messages are
>> not something new  to the rhetoric of U.S. presidents -- they're just a
>> welcome changes from GWB tenure.  And presumably all U.S. presidents
>> have exceptional opportunities by virtue of their position.
>
> Absolutely. The opportunity would need to be something like: "We the
> committee genuinely believe that Obama will seek to use his office to
> further Peace, and that us giving him the Prize now substantially
> increases the chances of him trying and succeeding in making a big
> difference". I can't imagine they've thought that about many US
> presidents, and even fewer beauty queens.

I should add, I'm far from convinced the committee was correct. I just
don't think that they were so obviously wrong for the reasons given so
far, even if those reasons are understandable; Obama doesn't deserve
the Prize (yet?)!

m

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