On Sunday 18 Apr 2010 8:22:11 pm Thaths wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:37 AM, ss <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hindus are allowed to kill both believers and unbelievers.
>
> Couldn't that be said about all religions? Muslims killing muslims in
> the Iran-Iraq war, Christians killing (in some theaters of war)
> christians in the WWI and WWII, etc? The reasons people kill each
> other varies. Some times it is land, some times it is resources and
> some times it is religion. To derive an axiom that religious killing
> does not happen or is not noteworthy seems unjustified to me.


What religions dictate and what followers of religions do are two different 
things. The act of attributing a religious motivation to a societal event or 
societal situation is a political act. It seeks to highlight one religious 
motivation over another.

For example social inequity and social discrimination was made official by 
Hindus though a millennia old process. The misnamed "caste" system was 
attributed to Hinduism as if it was some imperfeect religion imposing an 
imperfect social system. The perfect religions had eliminated this imperfect 
system bnecause their holy books said so. But a change of religion did not 
eliminate the caste system either among Christians or Muslims. Does that mean 
that a Hindu god of caste is more powerful than a Christian or Islamic god of 
equality?  God is a strawman here. Claiming that "my God" allows this or does 
not allow that is pure bullshit. GIGO. Bringing religion in is a political 
act.

The same holds true for people kiling people. How often do you read the 
assertion that Muslims do not kill Muslims? But that is rubbish. Muslims kill 
more Muslims in the name of Islam than Muslims being killed by non Muslims. 
Doesn't  that mean that Allah is an utter failure? No. because Allah/God is a 
strawman here. It is a politically motivated act to deliberately claim that 
Muslims don't kill Muslims and highlight the killing of Muslims by non 
Muslims while ignoring the killing of Muslims by Muslims.

Perhaps I have managed to explain my response to the following messages on 
Silk
> On Sunday 18 Apr 2010 6:22:52 pm Biju Chacko wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Abhijit Menon-Sen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > At 2010-04-17 11:55:25 +0530, [email protected] wrote:
> > >> Some religions (though not Hinduism) have no place for those who do
> > >> not believe; they are labelled "pagan" or "heathen" or "unbelievers"
> > >> and can be persecuted and killed...
> > >
> > > Yeah. No persecution and killing of unbelievers when it comes to
> > > Hinduism. Nothing to see here, move right along.
> >
> > Um ... Gujarat '02, Delhi '84, Kandhamal '08?


shiv




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