On 30 Jan 2011, at 18:40, underscore <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 1/30/11, Ingrid Srinath <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> the regime, yes -- its a matter of survival. but, i dont think there
>>> is even a single protestor who
>>> is out there in indignant anger because the americans reduced funding
>>> for some civil society groups....
>>> 
>> 
>> Absolutely, but choking off the channels that press for democratic reform,
>> social justice etc. leaves people with no avenue but insurrection.  And the
>> signal the regime received was that the new US administration cared less
>> about democratic reform than the Bush administration did.
>> 
> 
> I am not disagreeing with you on the above -- what I am trying to say
> is that these channels did not begin-to-exist / cease-to-exist because
> of the US cutting funds for civil society groups.
> 
> All such funds are channeled via USAID ...which does not fund anything
> remotely smelling of dissidence or having an incendiary agenda.  They
> typically support the powder-puff change-the-world seminar /
> conference kind of project revolving around themes like : urban
> poverty, upliftment of women, infant mortality etc [In my part of the
> world the favorite is : youth empowerment, and FGM ]. They are there
> not just in Egypt, but in every "strategically" important 3rd world
> outpost. No one cares about these programs ...neither a regime worried
> about policy shift ...or the US government.
> 
> 
> This sentence is from a USAID audit of their own democracy projects in
> Egypt in 2008 :
> 
> "the impact of USAid/Egypt's democracy and governance programmes was
> unnoticeable in indexes describing the country's democratic
> environment" (page 2, link below -- also has a description of a
> typical "seminar" run by USAID)
> 
> <http://www.thenational.ae/news/worldwide/africa/egypts-democracy-groups-fear-shift-in-us-policy-will-harm-their-work>
> 
> So, the obama administration decided to do the smart thing : save
> money and shut down some of these programs. The only ones i think,
> willing to come and throw stones for this indignation are American
> commentators on huffington post.
> 
> More interesting is this foreign policy report -- which i believe
> appeared in the economist sometime back --- but is available un-gated
> here :
> 
> <http://www.brookings.edu/articles/2010/10_middle_east_hamid.aspx>
> quote:
> ".... the hype surrounding the Bush “freedom agenda” – which included
> the creation of the Middle East Partnership Initiative (MEPI) and a
> doubling of National Endowment for Democracy funding – obscured the
> fundamental reality that American, as well as European, financial
> assistance has been just as limited as the NGOs and political groups
> it has tried to support...."
> 
> quote:
> "As for political groups or movements, they generally have not
> received US assistance. Such groups are obviously more controversial
> as their goals extend well beyond the mandate of NGOs, which are
> relatively small and focused on more limited objectives. In Egypt,
> this includes groups such as Kifaya, April 6, the National Association
> for Change, and the Muslim Brotherhood. None have received U.S.
> funding. "
> 
In sum, there was a policy change that you believe had no impact. My own 
conversations with Egyptian activists from a range of organisations suggest 
otherwise. From small but significant groups operating in a hostile 
environment, the reactions I heard when the change was implemented were of 
abandonment and despair. 

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